♦♦♦Saul Alvarez vs Julio Cesar Chavez Jr its OFFICIAL!!!♦♦♦

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IsaL, Jan 13, 2017.


  1. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Those who're comparing this to Barrera/Morales need to go see a doctor. This ain't gonna be anything like that. If anything, this is gonna be like Pacquaio/Margarito with less different in size and skill departments.
     
  2. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Barrera-Morales I wasn't as big as Canelo-Chavez Jr is today. I disagree with that.
     
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  3. RacingBeat

    RacingBeat Casual lives matter Full Member

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    I just meant as "mexicos greatest fight"
     
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  4. drenlou

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    I think people are comparing because of the Mexican rivalry between the 2 fighters. Morales-Barerra I was a fight between two highly skilled fighters, where Canelo-Chavez pits an highly skilled fighter vs a good pressure fighter with a great chin.
     
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  5. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm a bigger MAB fan, and I can assure you that while the quality of boxing will not be anywhere NEAR Marco Antonio Barrera-Erik Morales, the significance and the hype will. Mexican fans have been dreaming and clamoring for this fight for years now. More so than Cotto-Canelo.
     
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  6. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But Barrera-Morales I was more significant.

    This might be bigger, but it's not a hugely significant fight to be honest.
     
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  7. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It seems extremely disrespectful to me when I read someone say "another Barrera/Morales type classic". And I don't think Chavez is a good pressure fighter, he's just slightly above average.

    I genieunly believe Jermall Charlo @ 154 or Saunders @ 160 would've been better and more challenging fights for Canelo, but can't knock him for this with the potential revenue.
     
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  8. kirk

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    Everyone who tries to see the reality of the situation is a GGGoon, regardless if you actually like Golovkin or not. Its just reality, if you are are not pro Canelo, and everything he does... you are a GGGoon, supposedly.
     
  9. RacingBeat

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    The circumstances negate most of that to me, Chavez was an underachiever at best before completely coming off the rails in terms of commitment to the sport

    Coupled with the ridiculous weight games from Red it adds up to a money grab cherry pick

    The antithesis of that night back in 2000. No thanks I don't believe tha hype
     
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  10. drenlou

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    I agree. It was more significant in the fact that Morales was defending for the 9th time and was looked as the next best thing from Mexico since Chavez Sr, and was defending against a countryman who had a thing to say about it, but was sort of under the radar so to speak since losing to junior Jones. That was the biggest rivalry in Mexican boxing at that time. But had little media coverage in the US and was aired on a 1 match card on B.A.D..

    But like IsaL pointed out and like I've said before, these guys have been rivals since they started coming up the ranks from chavez' days headlining Latin fury cards and Canelo becoming an internet sensation before becoming more mainstream after signing with GBP.. the Hispanic community are really excited for this one..
     
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  11. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Nah, he's a good pressure fighter which showed in his fight with slick Martinez. Charlo doesn't bring anything to entice Canelo with, but I would have loved to see him fight BJS. But as a fan of both Canelo and Chavez I'm excited to see it.
     
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  12. McGrain

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    Boooooo, this fight, booooo!
     
  13. BCS8

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    Well, I'm probably a GGGoon. I used to like Canelo, too, before he undertook this crazy streak of El Pollo type events. I hate it when he says one thing and does another. If he didn't intend on defending his MW belt against GGG then he should have just shaddup instead of embarrassing all of Mexico in front of the world. :cursing2:
     
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  14. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Golovkin's haters have really embarrassed themselves by celebrating the signing of this fight - a fight that when Golovkin wanted to sign himself a few years back when Chavez was younger and more relevant as an acclimatising fight with a view to taking on Froch and Ward, they crucified him.

    These idiots slate some of Golovkin's stupider fans - and those guys do exist, the ones have have him down as a ATG smashing potential pound for pound number one of all time - but expose themselves as biased, hypocritical morons too often to not be considered at least as bad if not worse.

    Instead of calling out 'definitely not a middleweight' Canelo for a being a ducker and a liar they instead celebrate his BS and keep up their hate campaign against some Kazakh guy because he's not American and in some particularly sad cases not Black/Hispanic.

    I mean, one poster is even stupid/biased enough to claim that the 8m catchweight offer was still a great deal for Golovkin that he should have taken despite him going on to be offered nearly double that minus the nonsensical catchweight demands only a few months later. What, as a rational person can you you do in the face of such stupidity/irrationality?
     
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  15. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They have some nerves to celebrate this after years of going on about the "164 for Ward, 168 for Froch&Chavez" thing and calling him a ducker and cherrypicker over it.
     
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