⭐⭐⭐Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder III WEIGH IN LIVE!⭐⭐⭐

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  1. Naked Snake

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    Joshua wouldn't be caught dead with Scuba Scott
     
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  2. Naked Snake

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    I think if anybody's gonna fail a drug test at this point it's gonna be Wilder. Wouldn't that just add insult to injury?
     
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  3. Max Thunder

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    I don't want to see that puny Wilder get beaten to a pulp by this overweight behemoth!
     
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  4. kirk

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    How is Fury leaving his family to go off on drug fueled binges for days not relevant to honour?

    You say Wilder is a sorry excuse for a man, that's fine. Acting as if Fury isnt as well, is where it becomes gross hypocrisy.

    And the idea you want to separate personal life from what happens in the ring, when hurling assessments about the type of men people are and talks of honour, makes no sense whatsoever, but even if we want to use your very standards... Fury trying to cheat with PEDs is dishonorable to a degree far beyond making excuses that it's even laughable it has to be explained.

    But since it appears it does have to be said, I'll go ahead and say it.

    Trying to cheat your opponent via PEDS, is more dishonorable than making excuses for a loss.

    There. No personal life needed.
     
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  5. Unforgiven

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    Irrelevant facts.
    There are far worse things you or I could pull up from Wilder's personal life. But they are not relevant, so i won't go down to your level.

    But let's talk about boxing, and honour in boxing, and superiority inside the ring, and the ability to admit defeat. Fury would win hands down. You know it.
     
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  6. Unforgiven

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    If it is relevant, then there probably has never been a honourable person. Because we all have failings.
     
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    You're the one trying to define people as what kind of man they are by things that happen outside of the ring (words after the fight) I'm just showing your hypocrisy.

    But if you want to stick to boxing only that's fine too.

    Trying to cheat your opponent by taking performance enhancing drugs, is worse than making bad excuses for a loss.
     
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  8. Unforgiven

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    Dozens of great warriors in boxing have been linked to PEDs.
    The likes of Holyfield, Alvarez, RJJ and even Fury will always be regarded as better characters than brainless low life like Wilder.
     
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  9. Unforgiven

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    Hey, in that case, I'm happy to define Wilder by what happens in the ring.
    He is clearly inferior to Fury.
    That was proven in the ring. Twice.
    He'd have to win tonight to get to 1-1-1 officially, which most people would still have 1-2. Which means Wilder probably has to beat Fury twice to change that pecking order.
    And if Wilder loses tonight, he's cemented his inferiority beyond any measure ..... yet Wilder and his fans will still make excuses.
     
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  10. kirk

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    You want to throw Wilder 2 in there when it was borderline even... what was he like plus 105.. OK fine. Same with Chisora it was near even... 105 to about 115.

    But OK, so

    Wilder 1
    "Wilder 2"
    Wlad
    Chisora 1

    4 fights.

    So 87%, not 95.

    I stand corrected.
     
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  11. Unforgiven

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    How many fights was Wilder underdog?
     
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    What does being inferior in the ring have to do with this.

    Youre talking about things like honor and defining people's values as men....

    So when discussing honor and what kind of man someone is, you think Fury being able to beat Wilder outweighs him cheating?

    Odd scale you use to weigh manhood and honor but I suppose it fits with what I've seen from Fury fans.
     
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  13. Unforgiven

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    It's fairly simple.
    I admire boxers who take their losses like men. *
    I consider boxers who whine like bitches to be bitches.
    What's so difficult to understand?

    *or example, AJ in BOTH his losses.
     
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  14. kirk

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    Likely none.

    And he rightfully has been drug through the dirt for his resume.

    But he's not the one being paraded around as some sort of 'peoples champ' is he.

    No, he was the guy that was the laughing stock of boxing for most of his career.
     
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  15. Unforgiven

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    I'm not sure who "People's champ" is.
    Tyson Fury is considered a charismatic and captivating character by many fans though. Of course, his resume is often criticized too. That's fair. Very few people have ever paraded his resume around as something great, but he is admired for beating Wlad and Wilder on their "own turf" when an underdog, for what that's worth.

    All I know is that Fury is better than Wilder.
    Everyone should admit that, even if you do hate Fury.
    Wilder should admit he was beaten by a better man last time too, for his own peace of mind. Instead of blaming everyone else.
     
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