'03 Toney VS '74 George Foreman

It's strange. I see 70's Foreman beating 90's Foreman (if he paces himself). But there are things that 90's Foreman does a lot better.
Toney is not beating either one. In a p4p sense, maybe. But even though, as mentioned, they are a few pounds apart (original question) ...the size and strength differential is much...much..too large.
Young George can cut off the ring...but he wouldn't even have to...Toney is there to hit. Toney can not move on his feet enough for this to be competitive. You can't pull a Chris Byrd with Young George, Yes, Ali did...but that's irrelevant.
A 90's Foreman takes a very wide decision or a late stoppage. Old Big George would be wiser than young George. He would stand a few feet away from Toney on the ropes and pot shot him all night. George would not need to come in close enough for Toney to land enough effective shots. George would push him back against the ropes or throw the jab and land the big right repeatedly all night. Not enough Toney-power to have any other outcome.

 

People are getting Frazier and Toney confused because Toney played Frazier in the Ali movie LOL

 

I don't see what the fuss is about Toney at Heavyweight, really, he's done nothing of note at that weight IMO.

His stoppage of Holyfield was good, but not outstanding. And he blew the rest of the time with a combination of roids and fat.

The most crucial part IMO of Ali beating Foreman was the start, when Ali (I think on the advice Dundee gave him? Can't really remember) went with the plan of making Foreman respect his power, and really sat down on some right hands early on.

Toney doesn't have that in his locker. I can't see Toney beating Foreman, any other way than Ross Purrity beat Wlad. By simply still being there while the other bloke exhausts himself.

I just can't see Toney doing that vs Foreman of 74. Foreman would have punched the fat mans ribs into mush by then.

 

Result:

Foreman TKO 2
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Foreman was too much of a true heavyweight in his prime. The prefight and press confs would rule but Foreman would be too strong.

 

LMAO :good:happy

 

Joke thread, you have to be kidding me. Look at the poll. Toney is 5hit at heavyweight.

 

Interesting matchup what could really go either way.

I think it would be bad style match up for Big George.

Foreman would attack furiously at opening bell, but I just don’t see anyone blowing Toney away in early rounds.
Later rounds Toney’s body punching and defensive skills would slow Foreman down.

I see Foreman winning early rounds then slowing down in later rounds and losing decision.

Then again Foreman’s punching power could be too much for Toney.


If I had to pick a winner I would take Toney by UD.

 

When Toney beat Holyfield, Holyfield was already over 40 years old. When Ali faced Foreman the heat also took something out of Foreman.

Also, when Toney fought Holyfield it was the first time he fought at over 200 (219). Against a young fit Foreman it would show a lot more than against an old Holyfield.

 

Haha... my man by a Frazier replay! :ko
Why all this treads with totally unfair matchups? I just saw Floyd vs Hagler :nut

 

Foreman via KO inside 10. Toney at HW was too fat & stationary to beat Prime Foreman. Old Foreman beats him aswell.

 

Toney could not even outbox Sam Peter at heavy... Forman by massacre.

 

Young Foreman with those crude punches would have a hard time landing clean on Toney. Toney's slipping ability is more effective than Frazier's bobbing up and down. Not saying Toney would win. Toney had a rough time with Sam Peter. Young Foreman is no more crude in punching than Peter was.

 

The amount of punishment Ali had to endure to tire Foreman out in that scorching heat, as well as the amount of preparation put in to counter George's style specifically, was immense. And that was ill-prepared Foreman who by his own admission didn't even bother to watch Ali's tape.

Gigantic slippery slope.