'07 Bute and '10 Ward against Bika - vids

You should have noticed that when he needed a tune up fight, Ward didn't choose Andrade. He stayed away from him, even if Librado was all available to fight him.

You nuthuggers like to spit on Andrade but the other fighters in his division show him much more respect. Not about his skills but about his durability, his heart and his chin. Want it or not, Andrade has a package that can trouble many good boxers despite his lack of skills.

 

bika is a brawler, some say dirty type of a fighter. he's a high tempo aggressive all action guy. he can box a little but against ward he used his considerable physical attributes to full messure. lucian but struggled early on against bika but he soon figured him out and proceeded to out box him. andre ward however didn't quite follow suite. he tried to catch him from the outside but couldnt land consistantly and while they brawled at times bika managed to find success on the inside. ward couldn't dominate the same way he did against the weaker allan green and i don't see him out muscle carl froch on the inside either.

analysing carl froch's last five opponants and his performances against each guy its clear the only time he was out boxed and beaten to the punch was by slick boxing skill. kessler, taylor and dirrell all had decent moments and usually that was during exchanges from distance in the centre of the ring.

can andre ward out box froch from distance? he showed against kessler he has good skill and used angles intelligently. but mikel kessler moves in straight lines and doesn't mix it up as much as froch. froch throws hooks to body and head, straight shots and uppercuts all in one combo. he's comfortable doing this going forward and backwards and can manouver around the ring.


my prediction is a very close bruising fight. froch will take ward out of his comfort zone. i see it going to a points dicision with froch having the extra power and stamina to win the UD.

 

Yeah and Alexander was to beat Bradley right....:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

What's that got to do with this?:huh

Butt hurt...:yep

 

Still waiting on the Ward being put on Def Con 1 by an Andrade level fighter?

 

to OP -
good analysis on fighters

yeah, its never a great idea on comparing fights, especially when there's a remarkable amount of time in between.

For Bika, thats over 3 years apart..... what has he done between that time?
He landed a spot on The Contender and had been steamrolling opponents since....
some of those opponents are solid ones - Sam Soliman, Donny McCary, Peter Manfredo jr...
Stands to say that his experience level and abilities had picked up in the 3yr window, including his Confidence

 

homie bika was robbed in both fights, truth

 

As for Bute & Ward - i think these two are the most evenly matched champions in boxing... I slightly favor Ward with his flexible and diversified style. But Bute is a very slick & intelligent puncher. He might catch Ward at an odd angle or counter him diving in with his left hook, which Ward doesnt do nearly as fast or as good as MT did....

 

err...... is it fair to presume this from your statement then?
Fan that favors -
Durability, Heart, Chin = "Rocky lover"
Fighter not lacking skills = "Boxing fan"

So.... you're fond of walking heavy bags like Librado Andrade & Antonio Margarito? Success in this sport dips heavily in skill, my friend. A fighter earns better respect through dominating their opponent with skill, not sheer will....

exactly WHAT would Ward gain from, experience-wise, if he picked Andrade over Bika? You dont gain any experience from fighting a walking meatbag that lacks skills (as said yourself)!

 

The best fighter Bute has on his resume is Andrade. It took him two fights to beat him. Kessler schooled him in 1. Andre Ward schooled Kessler. Hard to understand?

Dont worry you will soon when Bute gets his ass beat.


Oh and Ward fight Andrade? LOL! You think Andrade has Ward on ***** street like he did Bute with the Canadian referee running in to save his life?

 

You make me dislike canadian fighters. stop clinging onto those nuts, please, it's irritating.

 

I never said I was fond of Rocky fighters. I am able to see when they can disturb slick boxers though. And Andrade has a package than can disturb some good fighters. If you think Bika has won against solid fighters (as you said in a previous post, citing Soliman and McCrary), what about Andrade, who won against Stieglitz and Tsypko? They are better fighters in my opinion.

There are a lot of haters who just call him a human punching bag (it's not my call by the way) but when you look at his resume, you have to find some reasons why he was able, despite his lack of skills, to win against good opposition.

Bika is not exactly very skilled... He is in te same category (that you call Rocky) than Andrade. Bika has a bit more skills and more power but doesn't have durability. And that's the key point. If you are able to resist to Bika 3 rounds, you should be ok.

You ask me what Ward would have gained, experience-wise, in fighting Andrade? Well, what did he gain in fighting Bika? Ward was already strong in the inside fighting and many boxing fans could tell you that he doesn't have to learn more dirty tricks. In fighting Andrade, he would have faced someone who would have tested his stamina and his will. Nothing more.