1.5 million PPV buys wasn't a success for Floyd

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JohnAnthony, May 15, 2012.


  1. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And how many people did this washed up Cotto draw in his last fight? The point is....to solely attribute the ppv's success to Floyd isn't entirely accurate is it. If you're a fan, you have more incentive to dish out 70$ when there's so many names on the card.
     
  2. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    GBP and Floyd were expecting at least 2million buys. For boxing and fans it was a success, but GBP and Floyd were a lil bit dissappointed.
     
  3. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Pac/Cotto had Chavez Jr and Alfonso Gomez on it. Not huge, but decent draws.

    And NOBODY bought this fight because of the undercard anyway, everyone bought it to see Cotto/Floyd.
     
  4. Count Pacula

    Count Pacula Cashweight Thrillionaire Full Member

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    You're insinuating that Floyd gets lucky. I disagree. Simply go back and check the PPV numbers for Pac and Floyd's common opponents. Floyd almost always rake in bigger numbers. Floyd is a master at selling his name. Him working with Golden Boy Promotions is not an accident. If Pacquiao wanted larger numbers then why isn't he with a better promotional company so he can maximize his earnings by having someone like Canelo fighting on his undercard? Isn't Arum considered one of the best promoters today? You'd think he'd have Donaire and Chavez Jr fighting on the same card that Pac is on to boost PPV earnings. But NO. If GBP does better numbers, that's Top Rank's problem. Has nothing to do with luck but rather business skills.
     
  5. Caelum

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    Who is solely attributing it to Floyd other than Mayweather/Golden Boy promotiosn giving the fans a better card for their money unlike Pac/Arum (which is why they should be cut-out of the promotions) ?

    You still need a dance partner to put up big numbers (for most fighters), YES.

    That's why O$car liked to find that lady in red. And I wasn't on Floyd's side with his b.s. that those were his numbers now that he beat O$car.

    but if he is putting on a better show, that gets attributed to him and especially Golden Boy as a Team. Better than Pac/Arum, no ?
    I mean, that is if you are saying Floyd's side is putting on better shows.

    My point was that some of the luster of Cotto wore off as well so you can't act like this is the same exact hype. Cotto isn't Tyson.


    Floyd is also putting up big numbers in other shows so....
     
  6. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1.5 million for anyone is great. if you think it was not floyd then take him out of it.see if the celebs pack the house.mosely alvarez would not sale alot of ppv either by itself. oh and as far as someone saying they thought mayweather would out due his figt with odh
    well that only happens when he fights pacman and everyone should no atleast that much by now.
     
  7. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I doubt it. The USA economy is going strong and everyone has more money to throw around. ;)


    I root for poor numbers. Maybe they will lower the cost.
     
  8. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your opening question doesn't make any sense, or maybe just poorly articulated. Anyhoos, at least we agree....yes a big name for a dance partner does wonders for the bottom line. So does a stacked card with name recognition. And as for the underlined...for someone who lost alotta luster, Cotto sure does draw alotta people, as in 600,000+ from his prior fight.
     
  9. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I expected around 1.6.. But to say it wasn't a success for Floyd is bat**** crazy. 2nd highest non heavyweight ppv? Like 90 million in revenue? You serious dude?

    You thought it would do 2 million? Nahh... You guys seriously overrate how much these people will sell in ppvs.. People still think Floyd vs Pac will do 3 million like they don't have some of the same fans and BOTH their ppv numbers will double. Would need a DAMN good undercard to come close to that in our economy with the amount the PPV will cost.
     
  10. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's a failure to boxing fans that will now have to get accustom to these prices, if not an increase.

    It's the total revenue generated that counts. I'm sure they are real sad right now :roll:

    How can they expect 2 million if what, one other show only did 2 million ?

    Don't believe everything you hear from promoters.

    And they put Canelo on that card just as much for promoting him than boosting the shows PPV. That's what promoters are supposed to do for rising stars. More people now know who he is now outside of Mexico. Their building their brand/fighter.
     
  11. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So if we are agreeing with this whole dance partner thing...Cotto's ability to put up "600,000" is also due to him fighting a very popular in demand rematch with an infamous MEXICAN fighter named Margarito, right ?


    Golden Boy/Mayweather > Pac/Arum = Floyd is right to cut them out of the promotion. Maybe they will give us a valuable card.

    I just want to make sure we are on the same page.

    Pac, Floyd, and the rest put up big numbers because of who is also in the show.

    Which is why Oscar was able to put up record breaking numbers with Floyd. Oscar had a great dance partner.
     
  12. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    Anything that puts $32,000,000 in his pocket, and a nice win, plus a new title, is a success for Floyd.

    End up with about $18,000,000 more in PPV profits. He did $17,500,000 with Mosley, in PPV profits. That was with less revenue, and a lesser split 75/25, than what he did with cotto 80/20 and more revenue.
     
  13. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    You guys do know the numbers aren't all counted yet?

    For example..When Floyd fought Oscar, they originally came with 2,150,000. They didn't have the exact total until 2 weeks later, at 2,400,000+.

    The fight was also available till last Wednesday, for order...your gonna get a minimum of 25,000 buys there too.
     
  14. kwilson71

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    This
     
  15. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Anything over a million is a success...that **** ain't a drop in the bucket. Cotto/Floyd hitting that mark was big...just like PAC/JMM 3 hitting 1.4 was big...at the end of the day all great for the sweet science.