1 loss equals game over

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  1. pretty boxer

    pretty boxer Member Full Member

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    its amazing how one loss to a fighter career destroys him in front of the boxing audience.

    i mean look at ricky hatton for example the man had 43 wins in a row and 1 loss to the P4P best in the sport, and people are talking about him retiring and fighting bums next etc.

    now this is gonna happen to williams. jermaine taylor was right, if a champ loses he's gona go back a try to beat the guy hu beat him, not fight tune up fights for the rest of his career
     
  2. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can't knock Hatton for losing to the #1 P4P fighter in the world. Williams is another story.
     
  3. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    It is ridicuous when you think about it, & as fighters compete less nowadys as to the 'golden ages', its less acceptable in some peoples eyes to get a notch in the loss column. But the ones who will get the respect are the ones who come back from the losses there same old self's or better.
     
  4. joekirkbycobra

    joekirkbycobra King Of The Ring Full Member

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    look at naseem hamed
     
  5. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ironically, its the same for some who put a fighter on a pedestal after winning against a popular opponent..
     
  6. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    to me 0 losses means you havent fought the best you could have fought.
     
  7. pretty boxer

    pretty boxer Member Full Member

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    exactly. thats what im saying. he lost to the best right. but there are 43 other fighters who he gave that loss to. people were talking about him retiring or fighting gavin reese, (hu btw probz only been on TV 4 or 5 times in his life)

    hattons still on top.
     
  8. RICH

    RICH Active Member Full Member

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    AGREED. :happy
     
  9. joekirkbycobra

    joekirkbycobra King Of The Ring Full Member

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    debatable because you could have beat the best you could have faught, but nevertheless i see where your coming from
     
  10. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Hatton was losing steam before the Floyd fight. Which is absolutely why Floyd fought him. He had a bad showing against Collazo and struggled with Urango. The KO to Mayweather just made more clear what was already known. He is a very limited fighter, with overrated strenth and alot of weaknesses. Cotto would absolutely murder him, so would Mosley, Oscar forget it. He does not belong at 147lbs and he knows this. The only reason he came back up was because Floyd and Oscar baited him with a huge payday. You're right though, in some cases it is unwarranted criticism. For example, what was said about MOsley after the Cotto fight. I actually rate him higher after his close loss to Cotto and still very high P4P. Taylor is another case like Hatton. He had been performing very poorly and displaying his weaknesses and limitations prior to the Pavlik fight. And Williams was exposed...sorry. The dude has horrible defense and NO power in his punches. Cotto, Floyd, Mosley or Hoya would take him apart.
     
  11. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree on mostly all counts, except that it was most certainly Hatton who was bating PBF for a fight that would make him multi-millions, not the other way around. I said from the beginning that Hatton didn't really think he could beat Floyd, but for ten million dollars or so it's worth rolling the dice.
     
  12. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great point. This is why i hate it when Mayweather says "i have nothing left to prove" (and i'm a fan of his).
    If you're undefeated, that means you haven't taken it to the point where you can't take it any further, when you finally face an obstacle that's simply impossible for you to overcome, and thus you automatically haven't proven how far you can take your abilities.
    Say what you will about a guy like Shane Mosley, he has his flaws, but he's certainly taken himself to his absolute limits, which is what this game is supposed to be about. Not about staying undefeated and maintaining an illusion of perfection.
     
  13. joeboxer

    joeboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    good point, but I don't think most fans consider Hatton, or Taylor etc done. Only haters of that particular fighter.
     
  14. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hatton is still the man at 140, and there a fights a plenty for him there.
     
  15. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree. A true champ is one who could come back from a loss a more complete fighter.