Hi Guys. I was wondering. In one year how good do you think a complete biginner to boxing could get? Assuming fitness was not an issue and they had all the equipment and coaches they needed? In my main sport people seem to appear compete at a high national level and disapear as quick as they enter the sport in the space of two years! What did most of you guys who actually box (not hit a heavy bag in your garage) acheive in your first year/s of boxing? Was it what you expected to do or even more than you anticipated? Be interesting to hear your stories
i no a number of teens who get to latter stages of national tournaments in their first season with seniors its usually national novice championships in your first season.the beautiful thing about life is that you can accomplish anything you want to if you put in enough effort over a sustained period of time.
It was a very vaugue question. Obveoulsy alot of it is genetic. But I was talking about Mr average. Average somatotype, Average Vo2max, Average neurolmuscular programes, average enzyme and metabolic adaptations etc. Going back to the previous post. I think if you want it bad enough and you have slightly better than average genes then there isn't alot that you cannot do. I am very lucky to be very very fit and have pretty good trainability (VO2max went to 76.3 ml.kg.min-1 after 6 weeks CV training) But I am dogged by injurys due to shite biomechanics! What did you get done in your fist season RDJ?
how old are you?i also think genetics is an excuse for the majority of people, i wonder how good mr average can become.i read that we only use a tiny part of our brain maybe the same is true of our bodies, perhaps they can become far better than we could imagine.really these question cant be answered but im sure you can be surprised with the results you can achieve if you put your all into something.
Boxing is different from other sports. If you haven't boxed before there's no way to make any guesses about where you'll be in a year. Can you take a punch? Are you even a fighter? How's your agility? What's your style (boxer vs. brawler for instance)? Nothing. I was a clumsy out of shape person though. In the first year I just got less clumsy and out of shape. I learned how to punch somewhat. Had some sparring sessions, but was still a little scared in the ring.
We can measure if someone is pushing maximally via substrate utilisation(Respiratory exchange ratio) for the slow O2 component and then EMG and a new form of EMG that measures velocity of haemocrit etc travelling to certain points of the body. Although defining maximal strength as maximal rather than peak I suppsoe is incorrect. It would be mximal capacity without causing fatality. INteresting topic of discussion still in the literature. Genetics make a world champion. Yes they have to train hard. But you can't not have the genetics and train as hard to become as good. Look out in 2010 for a good paper on this comming from the UK. SHould be in journal of sports med. As a sports scientist one of the observations of boxing is that people do not train correctly and they go for trends, fashion "old school etc rather than what is required and theres alot of people who just jump into a session without any considerations of periodisation and what they want to gain from each exercise etc. I take it this doesn'thappen at a higher level though?
Everyother sport is also different to boxing though. It was a vaugue question just to get some sort of imput from people. I am very interested in the sport but I only have a few mates who do it so I have very little knowledge of what people acheive etc. I suppose what I should have ased was how much did you train and how much did you acheive? I have gone into international competition in 2 years in some other sports but I was training 35 hours per week to do that. Obveoulsy some people would compete at district level on only 15 hours per week. Out of interest homany hours did you put into your first year? How good are you now? And again I was just talking about the ave person and what the ave person acheives. I know thats not much use for advising people etc but I wasn't after any advise. Just peoples veiws. For instance id say if you started traithlon in your firstyear the ave person could acheive district level. Some will go straight to national. some will crash and burn. If you became a 60m sprinter at the age of 25 id suggest you wouldn't race in your first year if you were Mr ave.
boxing is ages behind modern sport science pros still use old school training.u seem to no your stuff why dont u post a perfect program for an amateur boxer who fights once a month
I could tell you how to get fit to box and how to fit it around boxing training. But this sport is as much tech as anything. I don't know enough to advise in this aspect and it should never be done over the internet. If a few people are interested in a breif overveiw to the fitness side I can do that in a few weeks but I have a 7 day biostatistciss and anthropometrical measurement issues exam starting nextwendesday (im avoiding revision being on here!) I think its funny how everyone trains there running in miles etc where as in every other sport you train time and metabolic systems. And how everyone trains pretty much the same energysystems all year round even though they change their exercises etc. Swimming sufferes the same. Its a good 10 years behind running!!!
Right. I was hinting at being punched in the face, most sports don't have that aspect. It adds another dimension. A vague question resulted in a vague answer I put in about 15 hours a week, two a day on average. You could have your first few amateur fights in a year. Apart from that I can't tell you anything. You could have insane talent and a great chin, but it could also turn out that you simply don't have what it takes. Everybody can be trained to run, but not everybody can fight.
I think you may have missunderstood my question. It was assuming all of those things were pretty average orit was a pretty well balanced indivdual. Anyway it was just a fun question to see what peoples experiances and expectations were I suppose. But I also think you have a pretty poorunderstanding of sport. Boxing is not by any means harder than other sports. But any sport I have worked in claims to be the hardest.Also Not everyone can run. Actually very very few people can run propperly. There are some many biomechanical track and gate issues before you even get into learning the technique and then theres the issue of if you can create the correct peripheral adaptations. As for taking blows to the head its not only fighting and martial art sports that have to cope with this. However my knowledge on this only goes to BSc level so I wouldn't want to suggest as to the difference in individuals physioligcally to take the hit. But only say that the psychological impact is a large one from what I have read. 15 hours a week I would say is minimum for any sport with simular demands. Any idea what the ave pro fighters hours are? ID suggest around 4 hours a day would be required. If they do that or not though I am not sure.
I understood your question perfectly well, and gave you my funnest answer. Right. Perhaps you should try it. And how the **** do you know anything about my understanding of sports? We've swapped opinions for how long exactly? Here's a comparison of sports that disagrees with you. [url]http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills[/url] You've never boxed but you want to be a pro fighter? Wouldn't it be a good idea to see if you have what it takes first?
