10-7?

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  1. Karl

    Karl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is a technical question.

    We all know that a KD in a round renders a 10-8 on the score cards.

    You can also get a 10-8 round on pure superiority.

    In the Cunningham - Adamek fight on Versus, the commentators said that they would score a 10-7 round (round 4) to Cunningham if he had KD Adamek.

    They reasoned that Cunninghams domination in that round should give him a 10-8 score AND that with a KD he should get a 10-7 round.

    I wonder what you think about this.

    Should it be possible to get a 10-7 round with only one KD?
     
  2. billyk

    billyk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think in theory, you can score a round 10-7 even with no knock downs but a judge never would. How rounds are scored is more a consensus than strict rules, so I guess you could score a round 10-7 with onlt one KD, doubt it'll happen very often though.
     
  3. H .

    H . Boxing Junkie banned

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    not illegal, but i highly doubt you will ever see that from a real judge.
    the versus commentators say some pretty stupid things from time to time.
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    no man that totally makes sense. If a guy absolutely dominates a round and knocks down his opponent in the process then its not out of the question at all to score that round 10-7

    But in general even a 10-8 round without a KD is extremely rare. It has to be a complete beatdown not just a one-sided round.
     
  5. safc1990

    safc1990 Goodbye Bolo :( Full Member

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    :good Like others have said it would be very rare for a judge to score a round 10-7 with only one knockdown and no deductions.
     
  6. mgdb26

    mgdb26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, I don't think so. If one fighter wins the first three rounds pretty dominantly but not enough to be 10-8, than the other fighter should not be able to tie up the scorecards in one round by only with only one knock down, even if he does dominate. I don't think judges would do it, because it makes it much harder for the opponent to even the scorecards. Its similar to how some judges will score a round where a guy got knocked down three times 10-7 instead of 10-6 (look at Pac/Marquez one for example). It's an interesting question though.
     
  7. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Agreed.
     
  8. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It mustn't it should be as the following :
    10-10 when even or close to it , 10-9 for domination also total - because if it is total , it should wear the opponnent down and maybe help to stop him at least later , right ? 2 pts for each KD .
    Remember that it (10-7) is about what Pac got after 3KD's against Marquez in the 1st Rd. (maybe it was 10-6 , but you got the idea).
    So , I'm glad that those commentators are not judges , they should not be judges , very possibly not even commentators.
     
  9. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    I have been watching boxing for a long time and I never encountered one. Even a very one-sided round with a KD is always scored 10-8. In theory, it is possible but no sane judge would want to look stupid. There are three judges in a fight, and a judge do not want to look incompetent by having a different scorecard for one such clear round. And since the other two would have the same mentality, then all of them would score that as a 10-8 round.

    10-8 rounds without a KD is quite rare as well unless it is so one sided, and the other fighter is almost defenseless that his sheer physicality is what made him avoid KD. It is common among commentators and that is why they are commentators and not judges.

    If 10-8 rounds without KD is so common, I bet my house you can not name 5 fights with official 10-8 round without KD.
     
  10. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    10-10 rounds are not given as well. They maybe equal but judges are paid to discern small differences as to who they should give the round. So most rounds are 10-9 unless a KD happens, then it becomes a 10-8 round. So a 10-9 round does not indicate that the other fighter dominated the other because it may be a very close round. On the other hand, a dominating performance without a KD would still be a 10-9 round.
     
  11. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Even rounds & judges jumping the gun with their opinion's by giving fighter's rounds is what gives us lopsided & sometimes horrible outcomes.

    I say they stick to the basic 1pt rounds & 2 for KD's & that's it.
     
  12. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    An interesting and valid question. As others have said, I don't think it is strictly forbidden in any way, but I have never seen one nor ever heard one discussed. I agree that no judge would ever apply it as it would possibly draw a great deal of unwanted attention.
     
  13. The Italarican

    The Italarican Pretty Good Poster Full Member

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    They are indeed rare, but since I could use a new house:

    1. Pacquiao: a 10-8 round over De La Hoya.
    2. Mayweather: a 10-8 round over Gatti (beyond the 10-8 for a KD in Round 1)
    3. Jones: a 10-8 round over Hall (beyond the 10-7 for 2 KDs in Round 1)
    4. Hopkins: a 10-8 round over Daniels
    5. Calzaghe: a 10-8 round over Lacy (beyond the 10-8 for a KD in Round 11)

    In all those fights, at least one judge scored a non-knockdown, non point deduction round 10-8. There are plenty of other examples, but this is just in fights I could recall involving bigger fighters.
     
  14. mangler

    mangler Active Member Full Member

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    It's feasible. I don't think I've ever done it myself, but it makes sense.
     
  15. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    This pretty much sums it up.