Manny Pacquiao Bernard Hopkins Floyd Mayweather Shane Mosley Erik Morales MAB JMM Calzaghe Cotto Wlad
1. Manny Pacquiao 2. Bernard Hopkins 3. Floyd Mayweather Jr 4. Marco Antonio Barrera 5. Erik Morales 6. Shane Mosley 7. Juan Manuel Marquez 8. Ronald Wright 9. Jose Luis Castillo 0. Joe Calzaghe Some horrendously bad lists in this thread. :verysad
1. PAC 2. Hopkins 3. Mayweather 4. Joe Calzaghe 5a. MAB 5b. Morales 5c. JMM 8. Mosley 9. Wlad 10. RJJ
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I compare the competition of Castillo and Calzaghe...and there's only one winner. I can't understand rating Marquez above Morales. Morales holds a win over your number one and a peak version of your number 5, in addition to having a deeper resume with wins over Chavez, Hernandez, Chi, and Ayala.
If you consider entire careers, I rank Morales over Marquez. If you consider what they did purely in the time-frame under consideration, I'd give the edge to Marquez. Considering the way he performed while above his best weight and past his physical prime against bigger men at lightweight puts him a fraction higher than Erik in my estimation for this decade, those were special wins from JMM. He beats Morales on longevity as well, as he is still relevant and effective in 2009, while Morales was a busted flush a while back. If you replace the name 'Castillo' with the word 'Wright', I agree with your first sentence. But Castillo's sloppy losses count against him. Calzaghe, for all his faults, would never have been KO'd by a Corrales-level fighter. Plus, like Morales and Marquez, Calzaghe beats him on longevity in the time-period under consideration. He had a close fight with Hopkins in '08, while Castillo was KO'd by Ricky Hatton years earlier.
PS: Erik doesn't hold a win over my number 5 in my eyes, I didn't score any fight of the trilogy for him. And the number 1 smoked him decisively twice.
Morales - Pacquiao, Barrera (prime), Chavez, Hernandez, Chi, Ayala Marquez - Diaz, Casamayor, Barrera (past prime), Pacquiao (draw) With longevity side, which I'd attribute to Morales fighting elite competition for far longer than Marquez, the resume would still belong to Erik. I disagree regarding the so-called special wins too. Casamayor was almost shot, looking terrible against the really limited Katsidis, and many people feeling Cruz had beaten him. Diaz had been found to be wanting a little bit at elite level, I felt Paulie beat him. Morales two top wins...it doesn't get much better than that. You think? Castillo beat Corrales, avenging the defeat, and also beat Casamayor, and in your judgment, Mayweather Jr. If you credit him for the last victory, he has to be above Calzaghe, who's best win has just been tainted by your own admission. **** Joe Calzaghe. He didn't even dare to be great, so he should be thanking me for giving him any recognition whatsoever. :bart Castillo fought better fighters and beat better fighters.
From 2000-2009: 1. Pacquiao (Linear at 126, 130, 140 & Belts at 122, 135, 147...7-1-0 vs. Ring P4P Top 10) 2. Mayweather (Linear at 130, 135, 147 & Belts at 140, 154...3-0-0 vs. Ring P4P Top 10) 3. Hopkins (Linear at 160, Arguably linear at 175...5-2-0 vs. Ring P4P Top 10) 4. Mosley (Linear at 147, 154...Regained belt at 147...3-3-0 vs. Ring P4P Top 10) 5. Barrera (Linear at 126 & Belts at 122, 130...3-4-0 vs. Ring P4P Top 10) 6. Morales (Belts at 122, 126, 130...2-4-0 vs. Ring P4P Top 10) 7. J.M. Marquez (Linear at 135 & Belts at 126, 130...1-2-1 vs. Ring P4P Top 10) 8. De La Hoya (Linear at 147, 154 & Belt at 160...1-5-0 vs. Ring P4P Top 10) 9. Jones (Arguably Linear at 175 & Belt at Heavy...1-2-0 vs. Ring P4P Top 10) T10. Wright (Linear at 154...2-1-1 vs. Ring P4P Top 10) T10. Calzaghe (Linear at 168, 175...1-0-0 vs. Ring P4P Top 10)