At the very least it should supercede either Bowe vs Golota, and be on par with Frazier/Quarry & Foreman/Lyle....it is actually mentioned on here often and made other peoples top 10 fights/ HW lists in the past. From an action and skill standpoint it should be a must include!
How about Louis-buddy Baer I? If I remember right, Louis got knocked out of the ring. Mariciano-Archie Moore? Ali-Cooper I must have been wild. To me, the Rumble in the Jungle Holyfield-Foreman
Ali Frazier III Louis-Schmeling II Dempsey-Firpo Marciano-Walcott Louis-Conn I Lyle-Foreman Patterson-Johansson III Holmes-Norton Holyfield-Bowe I Corbett-Fitzsimmons Not mentioned because of poor or nonexistent footage but still epic as ****: Jeffries-Sharkey Fitzsimmons-Jeffries Jeanette-McVey Corbett-Jeffries
To tell you the truth I didn't saw any big statments about Holyfield-Dokes around here. And Bowe-Golota seems to be immortal in general view. Based on skills overall Holy-Dokes is superior, but Bowe-Golota has better signifcance. How many you have seen bigger riots in and outside the ring? It's part of this fights legend. I'm focusing more on impact of the particular fight. I think that top 10 HW fight should give something more than just a fight.
Also I think that such a one sided fight shouldn't be on that list. I gave dokes only one round, and there were not so pretty rounds with a lot of clinching
Toney-Holyfield was pretty good IMO. I wish there would be film of the Körner-Breitenträter trilogy as well.
Not sure I agree....but it's your list you can include what you will...But Bowe was outboxed by the nediocre Golotta (and I seldom here this fight mentioned as great by very many) and was not any where near his best and like Holyfield Dokes was not for a belt...And Frazier Quarry (if you meant the first fight...you didn't specify?) which is also on my list Quarry won the first round and could have gotten the nod for rd 2 (although not on my card), did not come close to winning another round. Sounds like you are excluding this one and not holding others to the same standard??? Either way I have no major complaints with your list, but also won't be revising mine! Peace
I wouldn't say that Golota was medicore. In terms of skills he was one of the best from the great 90's era. I don't want to make another Golota thread and write about his head and mental issues. You have some good points about Holyfield-Dokes and Frazier-Quarry (first fight). But I think that those 3 rounds and before Quarry hurt his right hand were more action packed than the whole Holyfield-Dokes fight. Frazier-Quarry was brutal, but also very fair-play fight. And also you can't say that Joe and Jerry didn't shown some good skills. Holy-Dokes wasn't that special in my opinion. Sure, 2 skilled heavyweights doing good job out there but this fight lacks big excitment and significance. I only gave Dokes one round and I doubt that I could give him more than 3 if I was extremely and over generous. It was a past prime ex-champion and up and coming former CW king in his 3rd HW fight. Bowe was considered in 1995 the best HW in the world and he meets a unknown Pole who beats him up badly. It was action packed and shocking sight. It was dirty war and yes, Bowe was past prime and poorly prepared. But he and Golota gave quite a show.
Fighters that would beat Bowe in 1996...... Lewis would have massacred him judging by his form against Tommy Morrison. Tyson still had enough I think, even though I'm not convinced Riddick is a great match up for him. McCall perhaps. He could take Bowe's shots :think
You are right about Lewis, it would be a brutal ending of Bowe But aside him and maybe Holyfield (stronger but slower than few years back) and Tyson (less proparable) Bowe would be favourite against any other heavy. McCall would take his shots, but would he outbox Riddick? Moorer has a chance, but he could be KO'd like against Foreman. That means Bowe was shot-to-**** and the 90's were a bad era or Bowe wasn't so shot.