10 Canelo Combos for the Heavy Bag

You misinterpreted the example I gave I wasn’t specifically saying inoue and Canelo had the same number of fights or even comparing them as fighters.. was simply breaking down that statement that resume don’t matter.. because of the conversation you were having I can understand the confusion... but idk man I have to disagree a guy can have an off night one night, a guy can land a lucky punch, a guy can come in overlooking an opponent a guy can get robbed all kinds of factors come into play 1 or 2 good wins doesn’t put you on the level it’s nobodies right now walking around with wins over Tyson, Pacquiao,Hopkins, Even Ray Leonard technically the guys who beat them shown they’re able to fight on an ELITE level but nobody would consider Kevin McBride elite or Jeff horn..

 

Donaire gave a turned-back-the-clock-performance-of-his-career in the Inoue fight and he still came up short. And don't forget that Inoue fought with one eye from the second round on. Can't just ignore this.

 

Kovalev wasn't completely shot, he still had plenty left in the tank if you look at his 2 previous fights. Unlike Donaire, Kovalev still had a big weapon that Donaire didn't have, a very effective and powerful jab that allowed him to stay out of danger.

Inoue hasn't fought the kind of competition that would cause him to have close decisions. The fighters that Canelo has fought would be hard for anyone to win a "clear" decision against. You know that. Canelo also has nearly 3 times as many wins as Inoue. Inoue is a young pup compared to Canelo. A solid prospect but no one in their right mind would put Inoue at the level of Canelo. He has a much farther to go before he can even be in the same breath as Canelo.

 

You could make the same argument about Kovalev. That before he got caught in the 11th, over those first 10 rounds he was doing much better than expected vs Canelo, working behind the jab, winning rounds, etc. For Inoue to sustain eye damage early on vs a far past his prime Donaire, that shows that he isn't as defensively sound as Canelo and takes damage a lot more. What makes Canelo great is that he's not only great offensively, but he is a great defensive fighter. Inoue doesn't have the defensive skills and elusiveness of Canelo.

 

Inoue's closest contemporaries that can be considered elite are Estrada, Gonzalez, and Rungvisai. I have zero doubt in my mind that he would blast out all three. Inoue's team has always said that the moment he has any difficulty making weight, he'd move up. But the Superflies are not very eager to move up 3 pounds to fight Inoue.

Inoue is a better than fighter than Clenelo. He's hurt, knocked down, and KO'd opponents with every single punch he's thrown to both sides of the head and both sides of the body. He's done it coming forward, counterpunchering, and fading backwards.

Inoue doesn't get hit anymore than Clenelo while being much more offensive. But I'm okay with giving Clenelo the edge in defense.

 

To your first point Monroe and Lemiuex isn’t great comp neither one of those guys has ever beaten anybody good in their career, it seems though you also agree that ggg look less than what he was hyped to be vs Jacobs and Canelo so we really just said the same thing.

to your second point I’m not gonna lie it’s really a tough call I mean GGG because of comp or lack there of was a fresher fighter going into the Canelo fight but Donaire was a vastly more accomplished fighter and between the 2 is an actual ATG so it’s kinda hard to call Donaire had clearly dropped from his peak but on the other hand what exactly was GGG’s peak? Beating Lemiuex and wade and guys like that? That’s not anything to write home about considering the titles and hype and being unbeaten I’d probably lean towards the GGG win in fight 2 being slightly better

 

Inoue is a very dangerous fighter, and I bet you're right that many fighters are avoiding him. But P4P isn't just about offense, it's also about defense. Canelo is far more well rounded, far more seasoned than Inoue. No disrespect to Inoue whatsoever, he's a hell of a fighter!

 

It's always hard to beat an undefeaed fighter who has dominated his competition, however good or bad it was. GGG also had a much higher KO % than Doniare, and was much more durable than Donaire. So Canelo had a much more difficult task to beat GGG than Inoue did vs Donaire. GGG, while arguably slightly past his peak, was closer to his peak than Doniare was. Donaire was older, more shopworn, had already taken 5 losses, was already stopped, etc. Now granted the people who Donaire lost to were better than who GGG fought, but they're still losses. He sustained punishment in those losses. GGG hardly took any punishment throughout his career. So yes GGG was much fresher, he also never tasted defeat which made him exponentially tougher for Canelo to beat than Donaire at that point.

 

Ok lol

 

Inoue has the most complete offense that I have ever seen. You have guys like Pac whose main weapon is left hand and guys like Marquez whose bread and butter is his right hand. Inoue takes guys out with any punch to both sides of the head and body.

Look at the Narvaez fight. Inoue dropped him with a right hand. Then he dropped him with a left hand. Then he dropped him again with a left hand counter while fading backwards before finishing him with a sweeping left hook to the body.

I dare say that he's more entertaining than even a prime Pac or Tyson.

 

No argument from me there. The way he puts punches together is very impressive. And his overall speed.

 

You're an idiot.

 

One last thing... Clenelo kind of follows his opponents (like how he came forward for 12 rounds against GGG, But GGG's back never once touched the ropes) like Pac does. Inoue is a frightening stalker with truly elite ring cutting. It's just bad news for the guy standing opposite Inoue in the ring.