10 Greatest African-born Fighters

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  1. smiffy

    smiffy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he was pretty good, beat a past-prime benn but then lost the title to that weird italian chap, nardiello . he was a brave fighter, mallinga.
     
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  2. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    You would be suprised how many French champs were actually born in Africa now ive had a look.
    They had two bantemweight world champs in the 50s/60s that were born in Algeria.
     
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  3. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Naseem Hamed ( Egyptian) I believe. How about the "Syrian Buzzsaw"? Mustafa Hamsho.
     
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  4. Russell

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    Wasn't he blatantly robbed against Eubank?

    Never hear anyone mention that one.
     
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  5. smiffy

    smiffy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hamed family are from the yeman ( middle east ) and he was born here i think.
     
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  6. smiffy

    smiffy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    think he did fight him, cant remember the fight but eubank went through a faze of poor performances where he always won tight decisions. so probably.
     
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  7. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    yemen is naz ethinicity.and syria is nearer turkey than continental africa
     
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  8. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    a real forgotten african champ was Anaclet Wamba. nice set of skills, big puncher and was damn good at setting traps...sadly never got the break that african fighters need to get out the fiercly competative and penniless domestic scene which has had many african fighters stumped early in there careers. the only way of getting out is by fighting into europe or south africa. and that means tons of money and resources thus you have to have phenomenal talent or desire. going to britain or france (commonwealth or francophonic)

    anyways anclet wamba good fighter and shoudl of got a major deal somwhere down the lines...this wasnt the weak 190 divison of old but a division which both lightheavies and 200 pounders were taking advatage of.
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  9. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, Eubank beat him fairly.
     
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  10. PowerPuncher

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    Also arguably got jobbed against Benn and Eubank in 2 other contests
     
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  11. the cobra

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    Ncita was more protected than Bungu IMO. Bungu was Ncita's cheif sparring partner for a while, but did what Ncita couldn't when he beat Kennedy McKinney for the title.

    Bungu has McKinney (twice), Danny Romero, Jesus Salud, and made 13 defenses if his belt, going unbeaten for 8 years.

    Ncita lost twice to MicKinney, beat Salud, Fabrice Benichou, made two weak defenses before getting a gift against Sugar Baby Rojas, and won a very close decision in the rematch.

    I think Bungu was the better fighter and did more in his career.

    I think Bungu could be dropped below Toweel, who was immensely talented and has an excellent win over Manuel Ortiz (although it was an old Ortiz), and wins over Jackie Patterson, Luis Ramero, and Danny O' Sullivan. That's acceptable.

    I don't think Bassey should necessarily be above Bungu either. I wouldn't argue with it too much, but wins over a very old Pep, Cherif Hamia, and Ricardo Moreno combined with his for the most part inconsistant record and less-than average chin don't really earn him a for sure higher rating than Bungu, although he should probably be above Kalule and Mitchell for a top 10 spot.

    I don't see anything else on Siki's resume other than Carpentier, who was past his best, and the loss to McTigue. But as I said, I don't know much about him.

    As for Nelson being above Tiger, I think at his best Nelson was probably a more talented fighter, but Tiger's resume is a clear superior IMO.

    All of your points are valid though, excluding Ncita being rated higher than Bungu, which I personally don't see.
     
    the cobra, Oct 13, 2008
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  12. Bad_Intentions

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    Ike Ibeabuchi.
     
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  13. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I've only seen the first few rounds of the fight but I remember giving the first four or some such to Sugar.

    Why do you feel Eubank won?
     
    Russell, Oct 13, 2008
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  14. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because he outboxed him for about 7 or 8 rounds and dropped him.

    malinga came on late as Eubank took it easy, but didnt do enough work.
     
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  15. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just on Siki, from the 20 minutes I've seen of his fight with McTigue, he looked to be more than holding his own, for whatever that's worth....

    A couple of African fighters I'd have in my top 20 which have not been mentioned yet are Arnold Taylor of South Africa and Harry Simon of Namibia. Simon gets there pretty much on talent alone, though he did have a couple of good wins (though I felt he lost to Winky Wright, you could argue he beat him). Taylor has the win against Anaya in an all time classic fight, and a good win against the competent Paul Ferreri as well.
     
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