10 greatest mexican fighters of all time?

There are a lot of great Mexican fighters on you guys lists that I know a fair bit about but havent seen enough of, guys like Zarate & Canto amongst others so I will respectfully leave them out, with that in mind, my top Mexicans are.....

Chavez

Sanchez/Olivares
Morales
Barrera
Lopez
Marquez

 

Very sad. Seen some of th news about it, Apparently he hadn't been seen out in public since October.

Efren Alacran Torres DEP

 

I have Chavez between 25-35, and Olivares between 35-45. Not that much of a disparity IMO:good

 

Chavez makes my top 10 tho but I concede, I shouldnt have even put a gap between he & the rest, all elite fantastic legendary fighters that are not separated by miles :good

 

Wow ... so many thing wrong with that statement dont know where to begin

 

Well go on then.

 

Harry Greb
Henry Armstrong
Ray Robinson
Ezzard Charles
Sam Langford
Roberto Duran
Willie Pep
Archie Moore
Benny Leonard
Muhammad Ali
Barney Ross
Mickey Walker
Tony Canzoneri
Bob Fitzsimmons
Barbados Joe Walcott
Charley Burley
Jimmy McLarnin
Terry McGovern
Joe Louis
Gene Tunney
George Dixon
Joe Gans
Ray Leonard
Pernell Whitaker
Sandy Saddler
Luis Manuel Rodriguez
Carlos Ortiz
Ike Williams
Kid Gavilan
Alexis Arguello
Jose Napoles
Eder Jofre
Carlos Monzon
Young Corbett II
Marvin Hagler
Julio Cesar Chavez
Emile Griffith
Roy Jones Jr
Packie McFarland
Michael Spinks
Manny Pacquiao
Fighting Harada
Jack Britton
Ruben Olivares
Thomas Hearns
Larry Holmes
Jim Driscoll
Tommy Loughran
Ted ‘Kid’ Lewis
‘Panama’ Al Brown
Jimmy Wilde
Evander Holyfield
Dick Tiger

Thats what I got thus far; where would you have Olivares and Chavez?

 

That's an interesting one, Harada over Olivares. How do you see them head to head at Bantam or Feather even when both of them probably weren't the force they were at bantam.
Like the list, someone will pick holes in it though

 

Oh, there are holes. Was in response to Riocardinhos comments more than anything else.

I think Olivares beats Harada at Bantam; He can box as well as Harada IMO, and if Harada tries to swarm him he's walking into Hell.

Haradas wins over Jofre top anything on Olivares resume IMO; no shame in that. There is obviously more to my placing than that but in short, Harada was the only man to beat Jofre=High placinggood

Haven't seen the Famechon fight where Harada is supposedly robbed; wouldn't want to comment on a hypothetical 126 matchup between the two :good

 

SO im assuming^^^is your list in order? I always thought you were scared to put one up. They are very hard to put up, props for making one up:good Definitly dont agree with it but then again most lists are hard to agree with. . I think you overrated Britton,McCfarland,Corbett II, Driscoll and Panama Al brown(but just a little). Underrate modern fighters overrate old timers.

Hopkins should be on your list so, Manny should be higher, Chavez way higher,Hearns well lets just say a lot of modern fighters should be higher or put on that list. I have Holy in my top 20. Sanchez should also be on that list. For as much as i love Arguello, Chavez is better and should be higher

 

No, because some newer fighters lose out on the longevity stakes, or don't fight as much top opposition.

I think its fair. No war do I overrate Britton, McFarland, Corbett 2, Driscoll and Al Brown. If anything they have a case to be higher. Hopkins just missed out, as did Sal Sanchez, I'm massive fans of both so to push em out of the top 55 or so was painful. But they will feature in the next batch, as will Lloyd Marshall, Holmann Williams (both top 30ish methinks) and Eddie Booker, who will probably feature in the 60-70 range:good

Thanks for the comments though pal. I was never scared, just unsure. I hope to have the whole top 100 finished by next week:good

It's all worth the debate:yep

 

In fact I'm gonna cross reference Williams, Marshall and Burley; I'm not that certain that Burley was the de facto best out of these three. It will take some figuring out, but it's a fun exercise for me if nothing else.

EDIT: Swap Hagler and Chavez round. Move Monzon up a few places (see what I mean, its so easy to question your own choices as you always forget something)

anyway, this was in response to Ricardinho, just so he didn't think my rankings were unfounded :good

 

Yey i made a rough draft a few months back and if i looked at it again im sure id make some changes. Lot of times there isnt much seperating someone within 20 places. Although im pretty set on my first 10.

 

BOLD: i know, it hurts my head sometimes:rofl

LINeD: same here:good

 

Leonard much higher than 24!

Anyways sticking to the thread topic im even hardpressed to put the Alltime Mexican list after the first 12 0r 13 those only split hairs seperating the next 15 or 20,and i consider Mexican fighters my specialty, Ive seen just about all of them fight and the ones i havent i know about their careers. Maybe that will be my next project.