10 greatest mexican fighters of all time?

I'd probably swap Saddler and Rodriguez around as well........gonna make some amendments this weekend :good

 

Chavez tko 4 tko 8
Whittaker w 12 115-112
Hopkins loss to the bigger man,but was very much in it more so than Napoloes vs Monzon
Mosley L12(by 1 point) Robbed in the other one i had him Oscar by 3 points in the 2nd one.
TIto robbed( had it 117-112)

If you wanna say Manny and Floyd well he was past it but still very competetive with Floyd, tells me he would have beaten him only a couple years before that.

There are a whole lot of other quality wins do you want me to name the World champs? It would probably be in double digit numbers.:yep

 

I don't think Oscar looked any better against B-Hop than Napoles did against Monzon. No way whatsoever IMO.

 

I would keep Sadler above Rodriguez in fact id move Sadler higher. He is easily top 20 on my list maybe even top 15.

IS Ike Williams on your list?

 

Unless I've totally lost my mind Ike Williams should be at about.......24 I think, without checking back:good

 

The best opponents he faced taking into account at what point of their careers they were in, Whitaker was past prime and above his best weight, Chavez was also. It reads as follows.

Pacquiao - Lost
Hopkins - Lost
Mayweather - Lost
Mosley - Lost
Trinidad - Lost

 

:roflatsch Total Bull**** watch them both again and get back at me! Are you ****ing Serious:huh Monzon beat Napoloes pretty easy, Cant be said for Hopkins and Oscar a fight that was somewhat close at the time of the stoppage, I had Hopkins ahead but not by much. Man Addie did you see the Monzon and Napoloes fight? Its on you tube watch it again.

 

Different styles as well though. In the early going Napoles looked **** hot...Oscar looked flabby and out of his depth. I have both figths will re-watch them againt his weekend, but don't see my opinion changing:good

 

Now your just sounding like a dummy and a hater, i expected better from you. You are beginning to turn into one of those posters who twist **** around so you can justify what you say:-( ill give you that when talking about Chavez, but Whittaker turned back the clock for that fight and ODLH would have always beaten him at Welter, also ODLH was the one moving up in weight. His first fight at that weight class.
Talking about ODLH loss to Pac is like talking about Barreras loss to Khan.
ODLh loss to Mayweather was like Barreras loss to Marquez
ODLH second loss to Mosley,like Barrera -Morales I
ODLH and STURM Barrera and Rocky Juarez I
ODLH and HOPkins Barrera And MAnny I although i shouldnt even make that comparison cause Manny wasythe one moving up not Barrera, Where as Oscar moved up when he lost to Hopkins.

And ODLH loss to Tito is one of the top 3 robberies ever in a big fight

 

Im not expecting you to move up Oscar based on what i just mentioned, that was for Addie.. Are you trying to tell me Oscar wasnt competetive with Hopkins:huh OScar won more rounds against Hopkins than Napoloes did against Monzon.

Oscar looked flabby against Sturm not against Hopkins, but anyways that wasnt the point i m saying Oscar was more competetive.

 

No offence but the same accusations could be chucked at you.

 

Napoles was also smaller. Monzon IMO is better than Hopkins. See what I mean? Napoles-Monzon was fought at a MUCH higher pace and Napoles also stayed on his feet underneath a frightening barrage.

 

In these recent posts where did i twist anything around? All facts or consensus opinions for the most part. Maybe i shouldnt have thrown Chavez in there like if he was in his prime but i did retract. Regardless Chavez was still a big win for the Young Oscar. Chavez was not so washed up like the one after that fought on, Chavez was still considered a lower top 10 pfp guy when boxing was stacked with Pfp guys.

 

Oscar beating Pea is NOT concensous.

 

Well Napoloes started at Lw Oscar started at JL, and i put Monzon and prime Hopkins on even par however you want to put them i wouldnt argue either way but basically only split hairs between them. I have Monzon around 15-20 and Hopkins early 20s on my atg list.