10 point must system, problems with it, and suggested solutions

I think a 10-8 round does the same thing. Introducing more 10-10 scoring and more 10-8 rounds would fix a lot of the issues.

This means if someone dominates 4 rounds and the other shades 8 rounds you have a draw. I think that's fair, personally.

Same as you I had the fight slightly for Peterson, but it wasn't a robbery under the scoring system - but it was a good example of where 10-8 scoring would have made a significant difference to the scoring. You're talking 2-4 less points for Garcia

 

everyone who's ever watched a pro fight knows about 10, and it's explained every card. no need to rock the boat too hard. it's all academic anyway. unlikely any changes will be made.

 

I sort of like your idea, especially in simplifying things. But it could also lead to weird results. Case in point in the rare fights were some rounds are so close, you could have many 0-0...which could also confuse people. You could be several rounds into a fight and still be at 0-0, which some fans may not fully understand as well.

But honestly I don't think its really a matter of the 10 point system, rather simply how subjective boxing is to scoring. Lets say fighter "A" is winning the round rather easily and your thinking its gonna be 2-0. But then fighter "B" lands a huge punch that wobbles "A" badly. Who won the round and what score? Does "A" still win 2-0 or maybe 1-0....or does "B" win 0-1 or 0-2....or its a 0-0???

Honestly I think boxing is simply too subjective to really have a clear system of judging. That being said yours interesting enough to the point where I wouldn't mind it being tested somewhere. Why don't you submit this idea somewhere, like send a letter to some low level boxing organization and see if it takes off from there.

 

I did.

So then score more one sided rounds 10-8 even without a knockdown.

Nobody's stopping you.

 

It defeats the entire purpose of boxing through history and if had been implemented from day one would have changed several major results through history and not rightfully so, in my opinion.

The point of pro boxing scoring is to put the emphasis on consistent winning of rounds throughout in set time slots (three mins at a time). Not; "dominate one round and that equals two or three rounds." The strategy and stamina conserving becomes more important.

 

I agree wholeheartedly with the OP, 10 point must is a bit silly and a bit redundant to start at 10, when is there ever a 10-3 or 10-4 round? It makes much more sense to start at 0 and I agree with 1-0 close, 2-0 dominant win, 3-0 knockdown etc.

The other problem I have however is with the criteria of scoring. Rounds may be scored on "effective aggression" and "ring generalship" which are highly subjective and lead to ****py scoring. For me rounds should be scored on the number of punches landed clean, followed by the number of punches half-landed, and the effect those punches have on the opponent.

Last problem I have is with close fights given as split decisions. I think SDs should count as draws and here is why:
- Assume 50% of all judges in the world score a fight for fighter A and 50% for fighter B.
- Assume all judges are unbiased and know how to score a fight (ha!).
- Judge 1 scores for fighter A, judge 2 scores for fighter B, if judge 3 is picked at random from the population of judges, then it is completely random as to which fighter gets the nod (50:50 chance). In essence fighters' careers are decided on coin flips.

Highly doubtful anything will change however. Boxing is very much a sport stuck in the dark ages.

 

my biggest beef is the 10-8 must if a fighter scores a KD. That can be a 3 point swing.

 

Agree one of the problems with the current system is that people (including judges) tend to make a KD an automatic 10-8.

For me if Fighter A is dominating Fighter B but then suffers a flash knockdown, he shouldn't go from winning 10-9 to losing 10-8.

I'm sure there have been cases where judges have only given a fighter scoring a KD a 10-9 (can't recall any at the moment) but its far too infrequent. Currently KD = turn off brain and ability to judge, automatically mark it 10-8.