10 reasons why the UFC is better than boxing?

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  1. Dark Sider

    Dark Sider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exactly...Dana is just a money grubbing *****...he was never a fighter and this is like having Bob Arum or Don King at #1 for why boxing is great.
     
  2. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    big white guys on steroids hugging and and kOing each other with weekend warrior skills.
    There are a few premier fighters like Fedor and Mashita but then a bunch of wrestlers and tough guys. Seem to appeal to the idiot and brute in all of us. Dana White gets paid everyone else gets exploited and 1 or two guys make decent cash. For me boxing is superior and a sport of greater beauty. MMA seems to have that working class brute appeal. The dumming down of combat.
     
  3. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The same Dana White that pays his fighters chump change is what makes it better than boxing?
     
  4. nezy37

    nezy37 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats pretty much it.

    too much of it is on the ground and only a few fighters really know what to do when the get there wich leads to alot of dry humping.
     
  5. preciseI247

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    Number 10. The fans. The UFC has perhaps the most rabid fan base this side of NASCAR. The loyal, Affliction-clad army religiously shells out precious dough to watch the UFC's pay-per-view (PPV) broadcasts numerous times per year. As to demographics, the UFC targets a younger audience than boxing (18-24), which means that even if boxing isn't a dying sport (which it isn't), its fans are closer to reaching life expectancy than the UFC's base.


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    Number 9. Oscar De La Hoya. With the Golden Boy's retirement this year, so goes the biggest draw in boxing. Say what you will about him, but his PPV numbers alone eclipsed the UFC. To make matters worse, he has also teamed up with the aforementioned Affliction to help promote, you guessed it, mixed martial arts. Up next, The Ring hires Tito Ortiz as its MMA writer?

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    Number 8. Reality television. UFC's The Ultimate Fighter is a much bigger television ratings darling than The Contender series, which has been kicked around from network to network more often than Michael Buffer has said "let's get ready to rumble."

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    Number 7. Senator John McCain. McCain, an avid boxing fan, once described the UFC as a "human cockfight." Back in the day, it may well have been an adequate description for a fighting sport without weight classes, judges, and sparse rules. The sport, however, has had to change its ways to comply with state athletic commissions, which is to say that the brutality is nowhere near what it used to be. The anticipation of violence is still a major factor in the UFC's appeal given that keys to victory include joint manipulation, "ground and pound," and choke holds.

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    Number 6. The events. It is rare today to find a boxing broadcast with more than a few televised undercard fights, which means that networks like HBO and Showtime tell boxing fans which fighters are important. UFC 100 on Saturday will give home viewers bigger bang for the buck by televising at least 5 bouts. Additionally, to maintain its popularity under a PPV business plan, the UFC has to make the best fight possible. By comparison, boxing fans had to fork over a good chunk of change to watch Bob Arum's PPV joke last February that "co-featured" Kelly Pavlik and Miguel Cotto.

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    Number 5. The "minor league." If your state has an athletic commission, go check the website and the upcoming fight schedule. My guess is that mixed martial arts has at least a 5 to 1 advantage over local boxing events.

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    Number 4. The weight divisions. The UFC has 5 of them, boxing has 17.

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    Number 3. The champions. See No. 4 above. The UFC has 5 champions. Boxing has the potential to have 68 universally recognized title holders--4 per division (see also Mikkel Kessler, Lucian Bute, Carl Froch, and Karoly Balzsay).

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    Number 2. Royce Gracie. No matter how you try to slice it, Gracie is the all time pound-for-pound champion of the UFC. His Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu style laid the foundation for what the sport has become today and, with the ongoing efforts of countless Gracie family members, will be tomorrow.

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    Number 1. Dana White. Love him or hate him, Dana White is passionate about and insanely protective of his brand. When it comes to the mixed martial arts, it is all about White and his UFC. He invites all comers to try to arm bar him out of his market share, but the competition has either submitted or is simply waiting to tap out. He hosts UFC 100 on Saturday night, which will likely break his pay-per-view buy record. Part businessman, part showman--White consistently gives his Eh. This is also kind of weak. But I will say that Zuffa-one orginization owning the entire UFC- is huge. If one orginization ran boxing there would be virtually no cherrypicking as the fan interest would drive matchmaking, the owners would scramble to put together whatever fights the fans would pay for. THAT is the UFC's biggest advantageaudience what they want. He's even man enough to apologize on those rare occasions when his broadcasts come up short.

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  6. bronx

    bronx Boxing Junkie banned

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    thats why a 50 yo boxer Ray Mercer just beat one of the best HW MMA fighters in the world Tim Sylva who is still young, right?:patsch

    Boxing by KO all week and twice on Sunday:deal
     
  7. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh boy, im not sure if this was a joke or a serious piece. But here we go.

    10. The UFC actually has a terrible fanbase. Its nothing more than a mainstream, bandwagon jumping fanbase who wear tapout, affliction and sport mohawks and tribal tattoos. Its probably the worst part of the sport. These fans will find something better to do in a couple years because they arent real fans.

    9. Oscar De La Hoya: Is retired, but Pacquiao, Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley and many, many other fighters are popular NOT JUST IN THE STATES but across the globe. YOU CANNOT SAY THAT ABOUT THE UFC who's fighters appeal solely to a North American audience.

    8. Reality Television: Is he really taking credit for having a reality television show? Reality television is arguably the worst part of our society and is solely responsible for manufacturing the dumbest people on the planet. The fact that boxing chooses not to go the TUF route and bring in crappy fighters who **** in food and destroy houses earns my respect. TUF is not about talent, its about ratings.

    7. What?

    6. You know what else is rare? Boxing PPV's. This year there has been one HBO PPV featuring the best P4P fighter on the planet fighting the best JWW in the world in Hatton. Pavlik-Cotto PPV was a joke, but nowhere near as much of a joke as the UFC having ridiculous PPV cards where the main event consists of fighters like Franklin/Hendo, Franklin/Wand, Bisping/Evans, Jardine/Rampage and those PPV's are $50. On an HBO or showtime card you're going to get 2-3 solid fights ie. HBO after dark. UFC is going to feature a main card featuring 5 fights, but maybe 3 of those are actually appealing. Not to mention, boxing simply has longer fights.

    5. Who cares. And that is completely wrong.

    4. Is UFC all of MMA? I think he forgot the numerous divisions below lightweight. You know, the divisions in which Brown and Torres fight in.

    3. Is UFC all of MMA? Affliction have champions, Strikeforce have champions, Dream has champions. And the best fighter in the sport doesnt even fight in the UFC.

    2. What? God, im sick of Gracie. Who cares.

    1. Dana White has done a great job selling MMA to NORTH AMERICA. Hes failed to sell it outside of it. Because the bottom line is very few people care about the UFC outside of NA. Dana White is the primary reason why so many people think MMA is a joke. The fact that he has to apologize is embarassing. You know why? Because boxing doesnt have joke main events where one fighter refuses to fight. You can call some boxers boring, but at least they come to fight and arent afraid to get hit. Leites was afraid to get hit and Silva didnt want to fight. And even if it was boring, no promoter should apologize because they dont fight, the fighters do and the objective is to win which Silva did. This just proves MMA is not a SPORT but rather a spectacle.
     
  8. **** the UFC, bunch of goons rolling around on the ground hugging each other, like queers, half those fights are fixed, id rather watch 70's porn..
    Dana WHITE, a cheesy crook, it's only a matter of time before he cheats 1 of his roided goons and gets his pencil neck snapped...
     
  9. castle

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    that was MMA fighters testing the difference get a decent boxer to strike with both gloves and there will be a big difference between the gloves
     
  10. preciseI247

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    Okay let me help you cats understand this ****.

    Boxing is a martial art. Just like jiu jitsu or ****ing karate. It's a style of fighting. It's called Mixed Martial Arts because you can go in there and use whatever style or combination of styles you wanted. If Mayweather went in there using one Martial art(boxing) his opponent would try to manipulate the fight to take advantage of where the style is weak(taking it to the ground).


    Tim sylvia's dumb ass tried to knock out with punches what is essentially a black belt in boxing- ray mercer. It would be as if I tried to choke out royce gracie or slam an olympic wresltler. It's not going to ****ing happen. But to bash these dudes because they are not world class at ONE of Hundreds of Martial arts is ****ing ******ed. IF we were watching a jiu-jitsu tournament you wouldn't hear this crap but because they mix in striking suddenly they're ****.

    Let me put you up on something.

    These dudes can kill you in 30 seconds. Yes everyperson in this thread. A brown belt in jiu-jitsu is a ****ing nightmare in the street because if you let him get a hold on you he could take your life extremely easily and you would have the same chance as a small child would of fighting him off.


    We love our martial art and no none of them can do what world class boxers can but respect them for being A minuses and B pluses in a multitude of disciplines because it's just as impressive.
     
  11. vonBanditos

    vonBanditos M΃derator Full Member

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    The title is wrong, it should be "10 reasons why UFC is more successful than boxing today" because I might agree with that. We could learn a lot from their promotion and structure.

    I'll never say that UFC/MMA is better. That's just my opinion, though.
     
  12. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    UFC is a boring horrible unpopular sport. That's like saying Hockey is better than Soccer. Boxing is much much much more popular nobody watches that UFC crap besides a bunch of white trash and people that like two guys dry humping each other on the ground. Boxing is a much tougher sport just ask Ray Mercer. A Boxer could easily become champ in UFC while a UFC guy couldn't even crack the top 50 in Boxing.
     
  13. superchile

    superchile Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the only thing i agreed its they do stack up their ppvs whit a lots of fights but on the down side a lot of them are boring too much huggin
     
  14. Bazooka

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    Boxing is a more skilled sport than UFC which in my opinion Skills mean more to me. for example in a football game if your on the 20 yard line you dont get the ball and run backwards because that in zone is closest I mean what kind of sense does that make?

    thats the way I see UFC, in Boxing you have a legal scoring area and two fist to score and defend with meaning conditioning and skill are a must to have success.
    in UFC if you cant hold your own standing up, you can switch it up into a school yard brawl in which two men sweat on each other laying on the floor for nearly an entire 5 min round.

    The only thing that makes UFC exciting is when you see a man get nailed with a clean shot flush and his reaction to being hit with a four ounce glove. other than that there isnt nothing to UFC.

    I hate the idea that someone can call that **** skill, IMO its not a skill to take a man to the ground and beat him down, people have been doing that already in everyday life for years and years lots of times it happens at school while they are growing up.

    The idea of some fights being waved off as soon as one man drops the other kind of kills it as well, what good is it to be called a fighter if your not given the opportunity to face adversity and over come it? A standing 8 count should be applied cus alot of those fights stop way too early.

    Bottom line, UFC sucks balls, there are few fights I will watch, with Boxing I am on that 24/7 its simple, I like to see Skills, any fool can choke someone thats nothing to be proud of and shouldnt be anything we give credit for.
     
  15. preciseI247

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    So you can't be a ****ing intelligent person or your BIAS and ignorance is that ****ing enormous.


    Tell me how a boxer would become a UFC champ genious? With no wrestling, jiu-jitsu, or grappling backround WLadimir klitschko gets his arm torn off. Sure he'd catch an idiot who decided to stand more than 10 seconds of the fight but that'd be it.


    None of you could have ever wrestled because if you had you'd know how ****ing easy it is to take a person down who has no idea how to stop it. It'd literrally happen every minute. And what advantage would your champion boxer have then? He can't defend a choke, or an arm bar. He couldn't even stop the dude from just sitting on top of him and pounding his face in.


    Take a second, think about it, and lose the ****ing Bias.

    Or explain to me in Detail how a boxing champ becomes a UFC belt holder and witness your own stupidity.