100% Proof from Eddie Hearn own mouth that he Is milking Joshua and intending to duck Wilder....

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  1. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The proof is in the pudding. Vlad wasn't an issue, the Parker fight wasn't an issue.

    Wilder on the other hand is a problem. Fights are not difficult to be made with AJ and Hearn when opponents are realistic with there demands.

    As long as Wilder keeps playing a game he cannot win there will be no fight.
     
  2. AJfan

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    You're missing the point. Who said recently Wilder wanted 50-50 in the states? Even so, they haven't even tried to negotiate. Eddie hasn't sent any offers with AJs name on. Everything is for Whyte. He has no interest at all in doing the AJ fight now as it happens in the US.
     
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  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wilder still wants 50/50 he just wants it split over 2 fights now instead of 1. He said he'd agree to be paid whatever as long as, if he won he'd get the same deal but the bigger share in the rematch, that's 50/50 though of course he has to win the first fight to get it.

    In a sport where anything can happen, a bad cut, a dodgy decision, poor refereeing, Hearn isn't gonna risk such a deal with Wilder.

    But fact is Hearn doesn't want the fight now, hence why he hasn't made any offers to Wilder, his plan has always been late 2018, he's made that quite clear for a long time now. He wanted to unify with Parker first because that fight was never going to get any bigger, Wilder as a final opponent has greater growth opportunity due to Wilder being American which gives Hearn the opportunity to tap into that huge potential revenue market. He also believes the fight can earn more if it's built up more, whether we agree with that or not is irrelevant, that's what Hearn believes.

    So if the fight is to happen before late 2018, Wilder has to give Hearn a reason to change his carefully laid out plans. Wilder didn't do so when the Parker fight was being negotiated and priced himself out. After Joshua/Parker if Wilder wants the fight sooner he needs to make some compromise to make it financially worth it for Hearn to have it next instead of later in the year when the revenue he believes will be greater. This of course means Wilder agreeing to make less to secure a sooner fight. If Wilder does not do this then Hearn will have no reason to change his original plans.
     
  4. uppercut_to_the_body

    uppercut_to_the_body Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Stop tarkin rubbish on the internet mate and go and fight him if you're so tough :lol:
     
  5. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    “AJ is refusing to compromise and has drawn a line in the sand that we think is unreasonable,” said Higgins to skysports.com. “We started at what we thought was a fair ratio, and then a concession was given on our side,” - Higgins

    "I’ve never met the kid, I’ve no bad blood towards him, it’s the sport of boxing. Right now I only see it being Anthony Joshua, Deontay Wilder, Tyson Fury and two of them have mandatory fights so I want to fight Joshua. They wanted to do an eliminator with Carlos Takam but why doesn’t he just fight me? I’m giving him a title shot right now. I’m not being the bad guy, I’m giving him a title shot.” - Prince Charles Martin


    Easy to work with. No problems. Didn't first duck Parker, didn't first duck Martin, doesn't respond every time with "I'm the prettiest princess" ? Doesn't need a few weeks to grow the balls to sign the fights he's favored to win?

    *****, with a ***** excuse.
     
  6. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Obviously Hearn is trying to maximize the profit he can make, so as a promoter you can't really criticize him for wanting Wilder to fight Whyte before fighting AJ.

    In the event that Whyte does beat him (it's possible, Dillian's a credible opponent now,) than Hearn can keep all the money in house in a unification fight between Whyte and AJ.

    Personally I just want to see Wilder and the AJ-Parker winner get it on right after, but even with the politics of the business, I don't imagine Wilder would have to beat anyone aside from Whyte in order to secure a showdown with AJ. There's really no one left for Deontay to fight to prove his worth at that juncture.
     
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  7. AJfan

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    Hearn don't want it unless he gets to put on the event. Even then, he'll do all he can to avoid and delay as he knows as well as you do that AJ gets his china chin cracked by Wilder. He isn't looking to do this in 2018 or 2019 unless Wilder is out of contract and he can sign him. Otherwise, maybe it'll happen in 2025 when Deontay is as F like Wald was. These are the simple truths of the situation.
     
  8. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Now AJ has a slice of matchroom The a Wilder - AJ fight is far more likely to happen.

    I don’t believe in a million years that Hearn wants a fight like that for his cash cow. If it goes wrong it has the potential to lots of miles on AJs clock and lose him future fights and paydays.

    Wilder isn’t like Tyson Fury. He puts your lights out. You can easily come again from a Tyson Fury loss because he can’t punch.
     
  9. Pretty Boy Floyd

    Pretty Boy Floyd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The fight is going to happen, it just won't be next, I am not even an AJ fanboy i kind of want parker to win but i also wan't to see AJ Wilder so leaning towards AJ for that reason, I am not sure why people are so inpatient for the fight, He fought Klithcko, Takam now hes unifying with parker, How many times do people go from one unification to another in the next fight? I believe the fight happens at the end of the year, people need to chill, i personally don't care if both of them have another meh fight in between.

    How many times did wilder try and unify with wlad or parker? AJ has fought klitckho and now parker, that's pretty good going so far. He hasn't even got in the ring with parker yet and people are talking about ducking.

    Its crazy to me that people are so impatient and i will be routing for wilder in that fight im not even an aj fanboy and i think people are going way over the top.
     
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  10. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    I can tell you what Wilder hasnt done that Miller has, he hasnt shown Anthony Joshua, Eddie Hearn, Boxers of past or present or the sport itself any respect what so ever. Hell he was calling Joshua a PED user not long ago along with a books worth of other allegations too.

    Wilder doesnt need to be facing Whyte right now, Joshua doesnt need to pick Miller before Wilder. But after all the **** he has been talking screw him, he has faced 1 real threat in 40 fights and now he is stood there with his hands out looking for more money than he deserves and expecting to get exactly what he wants where and when he wants it. Boy needs to realise he is NOTHING. Hearn and AJ can mess him around as much as they want, they can ignore him, mock him, ban him from the ring, offer him Whyte, offer him a low cut, offer him a turd in a plastic bag, there is NOTHING he can do about it. And seeing as he has been so loud and rude and arrogant make him squirm a little.

    On top of that there is no point exploding about the Wilder AJ fight until the dust has settled on the Parker fight. If he wins he will be getting battered with questions about Wilder and so will Hearn, so lets listen to what they have to say after this fight.
     
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  11. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ and Wilder did agree on the 50-50 it is Hearn who said no.

    AJ just did an interview with Raheem where is says the " Wilder takes whatever in the first and I'll accept the same in a rematch" deal works for him just fine.

    Wilder already said Hearn is lying to AJ and all he needs is to speak with the man, man to man.

    Most of the **** y'all talk about doesn't make any ****in' sense.
     
  12. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Stalling is ducking. Especially when you’ve been talking sh!t like Eddie and Joshua have
     
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  13. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This myth that AJ suddenly stops drawing money if he loses really needs to stop.
     
  14. critix

    critix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    aj vs miller builds aj resume in the US.....dont see the problem

    do see the problem with wilder pu$$ing out of coming to cardiff....drama is the name of the game....remember when tyson was in the ring for wilder fight? clip still watched to this day

    aj woulda called bum squad to the ring but no, he chickened out
     
  15. Bensub

    Bensub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only FACT here is Hearn/Joshua have made one offer to wilder for the fight and Wilder has said no he wants 50/50, why doesnt Wilder and his team make a counter offer....to be continued.