$1000 to the first person to name 50 fighters better than Floyd Mayweather Jnr

Sugar Ray Robinson
Harry Greb
Henry Armstrong
Muhammad Ali
Joe Louis
Roberto Duran
Willie Pep
Benny Leonard
Sam Langford
Ezzard Charles
Sugar Ray Leonard
Archie Moore
Pernell Whitaker
Jack Johnson
Tony Canzoneri
Joe Gans
Mickey Walker
Gene Tunney
Rocky Marciano
Barney Ross
Jimmy McLarnin
Marvin Hagler
Roy Jones, Jr.
Julio Cesar Chavez
Carlos Monzon
Evander Holyfield
Bernard Hopkins
Thomas Hearns
Jimmy Wilde
Sandy Saddler
Jack Dempsey
Eder Jofre
Barbados Joe Walcott
Emile Griffith
Stanley Ketchel
Billy Conn
Larry Holmes
Jose Napoles
Alexis Arguello
Salvador Sanchez
Lennox Lewis
Tommy Loughran
Abe Attell
George Foreman
Joe Frazier
Ike Williams
Terry McGovern
Carlos Ortiz
George Dixon
Kid Gavilan
Michael Spinks

Of course I have Floyd in the top 30-35 all time, but for the sake of this thread...here' 50+

 

Wins over an old Robinson and Carmen Basilio are greater than any single wins Floyd has had. FACT.

Oh and if paper titles were around like they are today, you could put down the likes of Gil Turner, Paul Pender, Del Flanagan, Rocky Castellani, Spider Webb, Ralph Jones, Eduardo Lausse and Florentino Fernandez as having held them.

I'd take a green Azumah, a small Gomez and Danny Lopez over an old DLH (who imo beat FLoyd), an average welter Hatton and Jose Luis Castillo (who imo beat Floyd once).

I don't see the rest of Salvador's resume being inferior either. The likes of Ford, Castillo, Cowdell, Castanaon, Perez, Garcia and Laporte are as good as Corrales, Gatti, Baldomir, Judah, Hernandez, Chavez.

I agree.

Did I say he's not top 100? I merely listed 100 fighters with better wins. If we consider whole careers and factor in losses and head to head ability, sure Floyd makes the top 100.

 

Dokes was a friggin' heavyweight, you jest... :-(

 

Floyd has a better spread of fighters that he beat, so you could probably put Floyd ahead, but I think the Arguello that Pryor beat was more formidable a fighter than anyone Floyd's ever beat. The Cervantes he beat is probably as good a win as Floyd has as well, old as he was. But beyond that there's not that much to Pryor's record so fair call, Floyd's consistent body of work is probably better. That said, I don't even think he beat DLH and I thought he lost to Castillo, so it's not much better.

Funnily enough, if all I did was consult boxrec, I think I'd agree with everything you believe about the sport of boxing. I've seen more old fights than you've had bad posts on this forum pal.

Half of them lack depth? Like who? You've picked out 2 or 3 guys from the 100+ that I listed. Pick some more out and let's test their lack of depth next to Floyd's deep resume. Better yet, don't. Can't believe I'm waisting time discussing this with you anyway.

 

No, beating smaller fighters that are old r not as good as beatign elite ifghters in thier prime. Hell i can say o titos win over pernell was legit, i mean he was 35, while robinson was 37/38.

Ford, caston, cawdell are not as good as corrales and judah are you on crack?

Your forget floyds win over genaro hernandez, which was against a p4p fighter, a bigger achievemnt than beating a washed up danny lopez and green nelson. Try again, mayweather accomplished more than sanchez!

 

you had floyd losing to de la hoya and castillo, yet u had whitaker beating de la hoya and rivera, o yeah u really know how to judge fights. More like u pop a bonner for pernell and try and give him as many rounds as you can.

 

Whitaker was way way shot, Robinson was better than Whitaker AND not as faded. Even still, Whitaker is one of Tito's best wins.

I wouldn't write off the likes of Cowdell and Ford against Corrales and Judah. No I'm not on crack.

Hernandez was certainly no better than the (p4p ranked at the time mind you) "washed up" Danny Lopez that Sanchez waxed twice. You didn't see Lopez quit when he was losing a fight like Hernandez - twice.

And that green Nelson would have destroyed Hernandez and made him quit in about 6 or 7 rounds. Heck, Hernandez had problems with a totally past his prime Nelson.

 

More than half the boxing writers had Whitaker beating DLH so that's not a left field opinion. I had him winning by a point. THat's not unreasonable. If you think it is, you're a fool. I had Whitaker-Rivera 1 a draw. And the writers were divided on who won that fight from memory, so again, not a left field opinion.

 

You try ur best to make mayweathers opponents look like crap, comparing guys like judah and corrales to people that literally did nothing in their careers. Saying that azumah coulda woulda destoryed THAT hernandez means **** to me. Hernandez was a star when maywetaher fought him, azumah was a nobody when sanchez fought him.

Tell me smartass, whats sanchez's overall record against ranked opposition. I can guarantee mayweather is about 18-0 against ranked fighters, where snachez is what like 8-0 maybe.

Robinson was not as faded, he would go on to losing more than half of his fight after that fight and hes half fullmer's size for gods sakes.

 

All in all, sanchez has beat 3 guys that can potentially make the HOF, while mayweather beat 5. hell if judah makes a solid comeback and wins a few decent fights, that would be 6 guys that mayweather beat which are elgible for HOF, hardly a comparison.

 

Yes they would.

Which is why I specified that the fights would be at Heavyweight with 5 oz gloves.

:hey

 

Yep, and I'm still waiting.....

I think the cheque must be in the mail by now...

 

Jose Luis Castillo is better fighter than danny lopez anyways, even if you think castillo won its irrelevant cuz mayweather won the rematch and alot of people belive he won the first fight anyways. Not as embarassing as losing to a journeyman, lol.

You're probably going to say that danny lopez is better than ricky hatton and castillo, well knwoing you, it wouldnt surprise me. Wins over casamayor, diaz, corrales, johnston, bezan, lazacanzo and jorge paez is better than what danny no defence lopez did.

 

Well, what has Judah acieved in his career anyway? And anyone that bothers to view the likes of Ford and Cowdell on film would not be so brazen as to think that the likes of Corrales and Judah are superior fighters.

As for Nelson-Hernandez, I would take that Nelson to crush Hernandez in a heart beat. Many think that that was the best Nelson there ever was. Look at the way he foguht against Sanchez, Hernandez could not have coped with it. If you think he does you're full of ****.

What do you mean by ranked? Fighters like Carlos Baldomir are no doubt 'ranked', but the truth is they are average.

Amidst losing to Fullmer he was beating the likes of Basilio and Moyer and having close fights with Pender, so he wasn't totally washed up.

 

what has judah achieved, idk maybe he was linear welterweight champ for a year and a 140 beltholder for about 2-3 years. Id say thats more of an accomplishment than 95% of sanchez's opponents.

You cant counter argue that mayweather has beaten more hall of famer level opponents, its fact. You're just going to remain anti floyd and make a stupid suggestion that sanchez accomplished more, i'll never change ur opinion so just go back to smoking whitakers cocaine.