11 reasons Hopkins' chances are good.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by McGrain, Apr 15, 2008.


  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    113,020
    48,132
    Mar 21, 2007
    This is where we disagree then.

    I'm not an expert on punch output but this scenario seems the most likely to me, only because Calzaghe will feel it neccesary to put his foot on the gas and take some risks late because he's in a close one.
     
  2. Irländsk

    Irländsk Boxing Addict banned

    4,969
    6
    Apr 19, 2007
    I agree Calzaghe's awkwardness is a great weapon. I disagree that Hopkins will be able to solve this with footwork. His balance will help him react better, but his footwork against southpaw fighters is based on anticipation of what they will do next.
    Calzaghe does not fight like any other southpaw, Hopkins will have little idea what his next movement will be and will have to rely on his balance and reflexes to react, which could be too late in most instances.
     
  3. ayala

    ayala Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,052
    172
    Jun 21, 2007
    for joe to get his work rate & speed going he has to be at range i and hopkins will not let him get in that range.this will be hopkins fight after a couple of rounds
     
  4. ThePlugInBabies

    ThePlugInBabies ♪ ♫ Full Member

    8,673
    101
    Jan 27, 2007
    if joe cannot get on the inside or doesn't have any success there he can always resort to his superb jabbing game from distance which proved too much for a guy in kessler that was expected to completely own joe from the outside with his own jab.

    he is not the one dimensional speed+workrate slugger that some would like to think.
     
  5. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    22,560
    67
    Mar 11, 2006
    They're on roughly the same level. Both have beaten a poor quality of opponents, with Kessler being the best if you combine the two records. in Calzaghe's favour, whilst he doesn't have as many names opponents on his record, at least he doesn't have any losses, either. Taylor beat Hopkins twice, which is something Calzaghe hasn't come close to.

    Whoever wins this fight has the better resume.
     
  6. Sebastien

    Sebastien Active Member Full Member

    889
    0
    Jul 18, 2007
    Most observers had Hopkins winning the two Taylor fights, including Jermain Taylor. Taylor KNOWS he got beat twice in there.

    Bernard's first pro-loss doesn't mean much (a bit like Pacquiao's early career losses).

    So there's the Roy Jones loss... a close fight, but clear loss, to Roy Jones Jr in Roy's prime.

    Not bad. Had Calzaghe fought the same level of opposition he'd have more losses.
     
  7. Akxtinguish

    Akxtinguish Belt holder Full Member

    3,659
    1
    Dec 6, 2007
    If this happens it certainly will have a major effect on the fight. You also know what the reaction is going to be from the British media and fans (Joe Cortez is already held guilty for "robbing Hatton" , and when they see him in the ring the first reaction's going to be "oh, not this guy again").

    I just hope Cortez doesn't allow this to pressurize him.
     
  8. ThePlugInBabies

    ThePlugInBabies ♪ ♫ Full Member

    8,673
    101
    Jan 27, 2007
    go watch the kessler fight again. his hands were in perfect condition and he didn't throw a 'slap' all night. his punching technique was perfect.
     
  9. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

    3,634
    4
    Mar 30, 2008
    How do you figure he is under Joe's skin? Just because it was a brutal comment he made?
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    113,020
    48,132
    Mar 21, 2007
    This isn't entirely true. Hopkins great balance and footwork is also the thing that allows him to get away/in when a man with his reaction times might not normally be able to do so, but basically, point taken.

    If you are right and Calzaghe is not decodable under the Hopkins system then a stoppage or a wide UD becomes possible. Frankly it seems unlikely. Jones at his absolute fastest was able to do exactly this to a pre-peak Hopkins, but I haven't seen anything in Joe lately that makes me think he has anything like the speed to do this to the experienced version.

    Note that when I say pre-peak I'm talking about generalship etc., not physical peak.
     
  11. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

    6,614
    0
    Jun 6, 2007
    The question for me about this fight is how hard BHop can still punch these days. I have no doubt that his right hand lands flush at some point but is it enough to drop JC? I don't think so, but if he stuns him will he follow up?
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    113,020
    48,132
    Mar 21, 2007
    If he dumps him it will be a flash knock down against an off balance Calzaghe...no follow up aggressive knockdown I don't think.
     
  13. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,695
    3
    Apr 24, 2006

    The 44-0 thing is stupid...Look at who he fought...

    In particular, look at who he fought from the time he won the WBO title (Eubank) and Lacy...from 1997-2006, he fought a lot of low level fighters, and made no effort to unify the belts.

    44-0 is impressive, but in one of the softest divisions without unifying for the first 9 years he held a belt....no so impressive...
     
  14. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

    7,396
    410
    Jun 16, 2006
    Thanks mcgrain.Good thread and i'll kick this one around tomorrow when im sober bud:good
     
  15. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

    9,760
    8
    Aug 7, 2004
    As always...great post McGrain!!!!