114-113 Hopkins, so says the Associated Press, ESPN.com and many ESBers.

The low blow was not faked, the reaction? Maybe over the top, but it bought a tired fighter time, but the rules he was due up to 5 minutes. There should be no dispute over the shot landing low, there is video evidence of it happening.

Honestly, the best reaction was Hokins when Max questioned him on it, and kept showing a video of Joe clearly hitting him below the belt, and Max just sat there like he was thinking "well, we're stupid".

 

The person using the MORE dirty tactics was JOE??? Please. He did hit behind the head a couple of times due to Hopkins' dirty tactics, but not even close to the dirtiness of Joe. Just reading the statement shows how ridiculous it is.
As far as Cortez is concerned, my man MGUNZ 48 said it right, a Cortex fight is a Cortez show and always a worse fight than it could have been. A ref is supposed to do what he can to let the boxers fight, not whatever it is that Cortez does.
I was hoping to see a better fight than I saw from both fighters. Hopkins looked in shape, sure, but he didn't fight like it, and Joe couldn't get free from Hopkins b.s. enough for it to be a good show.
If anybody deserved a split decision, though, we should all agree it was Glen Johnson and not Bernard Hopkins.

 

I meant dirtiness of Hopkins...

 

fair enough. that's better wording. he played it for all it was worth. not saying it wasnt an intelligent move but coupled with his low workate and holding, it didnt make him look any better

looks like i might have to retract that last statement :yep

What is wrong with this guy? Does he sit in the nose-bleed section or is someone always blocking his view?

 

Somebody is Bitter:yep :yep :yep

JC won that is all

 

...is all I see.

 

Make some sense when you respond to my posts or don't bother. You could at least have the common courtesy to respond to each post separately so when we respond in kind other posters will know what the **** we're talking about.

Maybe you worship what supposed boxing experts write but I respect my own eyes quite a bit more. I don't need some 2 bit Kellerman or Raphael telling what I saw. Slaps or no slaps, those shots landed at a rate that was around 100 more than what your fighter landed so **** off.

 

Those who believe they know better than everyone else and think they can judge a person's experience in the sport based on their scoring of a single close fight = ****WITS.

:finger

 

Surely you are intelligent enough to realize that Calzaghe's punches have been labelled "slaps" due to their lack of power and the wierd arching motion that Joe naturally uses when throwing fast combinations.

They are NOT the open-hand slaps that are typically ignored when scoring. Calzaghe's combination punches carry practically no individual power, but they are legit scoring blows.

Zero points are what you award for feints with no actual punch thrown, for faking low blows, for rubbing oyur forehead in your opponent's face, for trapping your opponents off-side arm in your armpit and for clinching. :deal

 

fairly accurate assessment most the guys at the bar i watched it at got excited by those crowd pleasing flurries but anyone with a critical eye sees he wasnt landing. I think people like myself who think hopkins won appreciate the subtleties and clean punching

 

Actually, there are no points awarded for any punch thrown. At the end of the round the "round" itself is scored on the main criterias they go over before every fight.

This whole "scoring" blow nonsense is an attempt to make amateur boxers look better, that's how amateur boxing is scored, not pros.

In the pros, one good clean hard shot can sway a round, that's how it works. Defense is also scored, effective punching, ring generalship, etc.

Joe landing a bunch of pitty-pat shots obviously won him the fight, there's just us out here who didn't think that was enough to win a good majority of the rounds.

I'll say it again, Hopkins lost this fight more than Joe won it, because the rounds in which I scored for Joe were more-so from the inactivity of Hopkins than from any actual effective fighting from Joe.

 

One or two flashy shots don't offset a round of consistant punches, no matter how "light" those punches are.

 

and all of those people are smoking some mean glass dick

when i heard that score from the first judge i almost died of disgust.