116-110, 116-110, 115-111

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Rattler, Oct 30, 2009.


  1. Rattler

    Rattler Middle Aged Man Full Member

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    I just rewatched Whitaker vs De La Hoya again... for about the fifth time... and I still don't know how it was that Oscar "won" that many more rounds than Pernell did. Please show me the where's and why's of how it could happen...
     
  2. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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  3. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    de la Hoya did not win that fight.
     
  4. Raging B(_)LL

    Raging B(_)LL KAPOW!!! Full Member

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    And that right there folks is the crux of the matter. DLH was more marketable and appealing to the execs at HBO and general public and was definately a bigger money maker than Whitaker, so why give the decision to the guy who is on the slide and who deserved it when you can give it to the other fighter who is still young and will bring in more money down the line?

    I know it sucks but its as simple as that, Whitaker would have needed a flamethrower that night to get the decision if not a grenade launcher, and I believe in his heart he knew this as well but in the end I think he contented himself with making Oscar look like ****. I had Pea a winner by a score of 116-113 btw.
     
  5. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why do you think Leonard was given by one judge a 118-110 score over Hagler, Who's best for Vegas wins in Vegas 9/10. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ it's the american way ai'nt it?
     
  6. horst

    horst Guest

    You watched Pea-Oscar for the fifth time? You must hate yourself!
     
  7. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Whitaker hardly looked great himself throughout the fight. He never put on a boxing clinic like he did against some other previous foes like Chavez and McGirt in the rematch.

    Whether you or anyone else thinks that Whitaker won this fight or not, he certainly lacked variety with his punches. He was quite content to flick out the jab. He was busier and more accurate than De La Hoya when it came to pure boxing with the jab. But he was also made to miss many punches himself. De La Hoya's defense and caution gets well overlooked throughout this fight. This performance was the reason De La Hoya went ahead and hired Steward to bring more fire and aggressiveness back into his game.

    This fight wasn't a robbery, thats for sure. Although the wideness of the scorecards left a sour taste in the mouths of many fans. Myself included.
     
  8. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    I scored the fight for Whitaker. I can understand some wanting to score it a draw, the fight was close. I just can't find a way to give the fight to Oscar.
     
  9. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    It was a very close fight. Anyone who has it concrete for either fighter really is biased, IMO. A couple of points either way is a sensible conclusion and being open minded. Saying it's impossible that Oscar could have won is just plain stupid.

    Whitaker never dominated the fight, thats for sure. Far from it. Same goes to the two judges who had Oscar a 5 point winner and the other by 4 points.
     
  10. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    I would feel stupid if I turned in a score card with Oscar as the winner.
     
  11. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Whats your scorecard Robbi?
     
  12. AnthonyJ74

    AnthonyJ74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I actually thought DelaHoya won the fight. He seemed to outhustle Whitaker. Although I thought the fight was close, much closer than some of the scorecards reflected, I thought DelaHoya deserved the decision.
     
  13. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Easy. Just by following the 4 scoring criteria:

    1. Clean looks
    2. Effective impression
    3. Pretense
    4. Market generalship
     
  14. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good Whittaker just didnt do enough,seemed to play more than fight. Dont get me wrong he made Oscar look bad at times,but i dont think it was controversial at all. 115-112 Oscar.
     
  15. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This deserves much love.