116-110, 116-110, 115-111

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But the real no. 1 reason was: house fighter.

And just how often do you ever see the house fighter being the guy not rewarded for anything even remotely controversial?

But Whitaker had been thru that same thing before against Chavez and Ramirez 1. So he knew going into the DLH fight that it was going to be a stacked deck. Still, it is possible to actually win the fight and overcome all that & guys like Zaragoza &
Mitchell made real nice careers out of doing just that.

 

I had the fight even at 113.

I don't really mind De La Hoya winning it, but 9-3 is pretty out there.

 

115-113, De La Hoya.

 

The only disgrace was the wide margins on the cards, I had DLH winning.

 

Oscar got many gifts from the judges in his career. This was one of those decisions that didn't help boxing. Sure, some say Pernell didn't do enough to win the decision, but Oscar did nowhere near as much as Pernell in this fight and he gets the decision? The popular fighter in the ring won the fight, not the fighter who out-classed the other.
I believe Oscar took a worse beating against Whitaker as opposed to the beating he took against Mayweather.

 

"A worse beating" Meaning being beaten up and knocked around with power punches? Not a prayer. Mayweather did more damage on De La Hoya than Whitaker when it came to dishing out a beating. I think that Whitaker showed a better and more varied defense than Mayweather. But Mayweather was hitting De La Hoya quite easily down the stretch with flush right hands. He also caught De La Hoya early in the fight with a flush uppercut while countering off the ropes.

How could Whitaker hand out a worse beating when he was hardly throwing anything throughout the fight apart from the jab? It's impossible. Forget the knockdown during the 9th. It was about as soft as a legitimate knockdown as you'll ever see in a fight.

Whitaker handled a prime De La Hoya easier than a Mayweather coped with a past prime verision. But when it comes to giving out a beating, Mayweather threw and landed many more power shots than Whitaker did. Why did Whitaker do better? He balanced out his offense and defense more effectively than Mayweather. Defensively he was better when it came to negating Oscar's offense.

Depends if you mean a "beating" in terms your personal opinion of the scores rather than taking a beating literally.

 

you are a legend my man

 

Beating:rofl you must be some real passive guy if you think those were beatings. Mayweather did land clean on Oscar but calling that a beating is way off the mark,and Pernell did less than mayweather he just made Oscar miss alot,but Sweat Pea still deserved to lose that fight. A beating is what you call the OScar and Pac fight .Now that was a beating.

 

Sure, maybe I am a little extreme with the word beating, but what you fail to miss is the body shots that both Sweet Pea and Floyd landed against Oscar during the exchanges. A lot of the body shots Delahoya threw landed on Sweet Pea and Floyds arms, and Delahoya didn't start using his lead shoulder drop, like South American fighters do until he met Sturm and Hopkins. Quartey landed more upstairs shots against Delahoya during the exchanges they had in their fight that wasn't counted for in the scoring.
Like I've said all along, one single round does not dictate and should not dictate the outcome of a fight. Delahoya didn't win enough rounds against Quartey to warrant the decision. He definitely didn't win enough rounds against Whitaker.

It's amazing how the crowd noise for the crowd favourite increased every time the crowd favourite's fighter throws a punch that doesn't land and it counts in the compubox numbers? The judges paid attention to the crowd noise when Whitaker fought Delahoya, but forgot to actually count the large number of shots that Sweet Pea landed. Yes Sweet Pea didn't make Oscar pay sometimes when he made him miss, but it's rediculous IMO how much credit Oscar gets in the scoring when a lot of his punches are shoeshine overload.

To be a little bit nicer, Sweet Pea still out-boxed, out-quicked and out-hustled Delahoya moreso than what Mayweather did.

 

Do you mean the shoulder roll like Mayweather jnr? It wasn't used at all against Hopkins. I can't mind if he used it against Sturm. Not once was it on show in the Mosley rematch either. However, it was used against Gatti and Castelliejo, his first two fights under the guidance of Floyd snr. It more or less began to vanish after those two fights. I do recall him using in spots against Vargas.

I can say for certain it wasn't used for Hopkins, Mosley II, Mayweather jnr and Mayorga.

 

It never seems to amaze me when everyone brings up Oscars supposed "Gift Decisions" for the reason that he was a house fighter,but the truth is Oscar really only had 1 gift but was robbed twice. The only fight he didnt deserve was the one against Sturm and even then I had Sturm by a point. In my opinion I had Oscar behind 1point going into the last round against Quartey,but since he pulled out a 10-8 round I had him winning by a point. Whittaker fight was not controversial and I had Oscar winning 115-112. Oscar was robbed against Tito I had Oscar winning 116-112. I had Oscar beating Shane in the rematch by 2points. Even the fights he other fights He lost to Mayweather and Mosley were very close. I had Mayweather winning by 2pts. and Mosley by only 1point in a fight that many seem to think was a Mosley fight going away,when it was really razor close.

 

Delahoya started dropping his left hand and using his shoulder, South American style to block punches, namely jabs coming in, as opposed to when he kept his left and up in guard position.

 

Yes, not against Hopkins though as you previously stated.

 

Not as concerted against Hopkins but that technique he did display for a little bit until he started getting clocked. Oscar was using the shoulder blocks from the Sturm gift that he received.