130lbs mayweather vs current pac

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  1. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ouch! Very well said.
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    imo if you asked the same questions about Pacquiao when he fought Barrera the 2nd time then its not fair to criticize someone who is asking those questions about PBF for fighting Oscar

    double standards imo
     
  3. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He didn't ask any questions. He made statements and basically panned Mayweather for doing the same thing Pacquiao did.

    Besides, I didn't criticize him. I told him to practice what he preached. If it was ok for the Pacfans to say it when questions were asked of Pacquiao (and I never said or insinuated that it wasn't a good response), then why is it not ok and considered a criticism when I repeat it back to them?
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    well my opinion is that Oscar was already well shot the first time, and considering that Floyd is only fighting once this year, i am disappointed as hell that it is gonna be against an even more shot Oscar.

    As for Pac fighting Barrera, sure i was disappointed but at that time i was worried Pac wasn't gonna fight anyone at all because of the stupid GBP / Top Rank promotional scenario. And after Barrera gave JMM such a tough fight, PAc vs Barrera II was not half as bad as PBF vs Oscar 2
     
  5. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I disagree. I don't believe DLH is shot, or even as shopworn as Barrera who has been fighting longer despite being younger than DLH. JMM-Barrera was an abberation based on JMM fighting a more entertaining style when I think he could have simply outboxed him easily.

    But is this really going to go anywhere? In all honesty, there is no way to prove one way or another who is more past it between DLH and Barrera.
     
  6. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not very competitive.......Mayweather owns, Pac-Man...Too skilled, too fast, and yes too powerful. Mayweather at 130 hits harder than anyone Pac-Man has faced thus far and is also more skilled.
     
  7. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    kg,

    If pac did not fight mab for the second time. He will be forever regarded as AVOIDING MAB.

    In the case of pbf vs DHL. There is NO SUCH ISSUE OF AVOIDING? So why fight DLH?!!!!

    YOu know very well that if Pac did not fight mab or did not give him a chance again pac haters will always say..pac is scared pac is avoiding..stupid stuff like that.

    In this case of pbf vs DHL. There is no such thing..

    Your point about about being PATIENT is diffirent. JMM is asking for the THIRD fight!!!!! and some stupid people are saying pac is scared of JMM while.

    PBF has NOT EVEN FOUGHT COTTO even once! And Cotto's fight is not even being negotiated whatsoever if I'm not mistaken.

    Now, if they already fought Once..I'll be PATIENT on the second fight!
    Get the difference of what I'm saying?!
     
  8. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yup like fighting in his weight level for ages but fighting above 147lbs who is somebody not in his prime already.. but GOING BACK AGAIN to 147 coz the rest of the guys above 147lbs IS NOT YET READY for RETIREMENT!!!!

    I'm sure pbf again will fight at 154LBS to GUYS who are JUST A FEW FIGHTS AWAY FROM RETIREMENT!!!!
     
  9. dave82

    dave82 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If this fight occured Floyd would take Manny to the cleaners. The only advantage that Manny could have in this fight would be power, however what good is that when you are fighting someone who wont let you hit him?! Floyds footwork and general defence will be enough to limit Mannys offence, allowing him to counter Manny almost at will. Mannys early pressure may allow him to bank a couple of early rounds but once Floyd gets his timing right it will be down hill from there. Floyd TKO 7
     
  10. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yah, no he wouldn't have. That's an outright fabrication. Everyone was calling for a JMM rematch at the time of that fight, especially considering these factors.

    One: MAB was blown out by Pacquiao close to his prime.

    Two: MAB had just lost to JMM

    Three: JMM had a draw with Pacquiao.

    No one was saying Pacquiao was ducking or avoiding Barrera. When the fight was announced there was a collective "why?" Same as with DLH vs PBF II. You keep trying to bring up haters as a crutch. I am talking about boxing fans who could care less about hating Pacquiao or Mayweather. I could just as easily say that Mayweather haters think Mayweather didn't really defeat Hoya the first time and are clamouring for a rematch. It would be false, just like what you just said. No one cared about Pac-MAB II.

    Again, like you said, be patient. It doesn't matter a bit that Cotto and Mayweather haven't fought yet. You know that's the fight to be made and that Mayweather is trying to make a ton of money before taking it. You had no issue with Pacquiao taking a money fight before taking on a rematch that took 3-4 years to take place. So chill out.
     
  11. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ask yourself if JMM did not out priced himself will the rematch still take 3 to 4 yrs to take.

    There was some bad business decision which JMM made that is why it took 3 to 4 yrs.

    Probably he got tired of fighting the likes of jaca,sabido and a bunch of class b boxers and wanted $$$ that finally paved the way to a rematch with pac..

    We all know that story...

    Anyway, the being patient SCENARIO here is totally different

    We are WAITING for the pac vs jmm3 while there is still no light at the end of the tunnel for the pbf vs cotto1.
     
  12. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Only thing u should be laughing at is yourself if u really believe that mess :-(
     
  13. Benjiabc

    Benjiabc The Nottingham Hitman Full Member

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    exactly:good
     
  14. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You want the scenario to be different. You keep talking about things that don't matter. Pacquiao-JMM II took 3-4 years either because JMM priced himself out (Pacfan) or Pacquiao was being greedy and didn't want to give JMM more money (JMM fan). JMM wasn't asking for more money than Pacquiao. And exactly who are you to decide how much JMM was worth after that first fight?

    Fact is, Pacquiao went after big name fighters after that fight, all coming off of losses and made big money. He did all this before settling things with JMM. You guys were perfectly fine with that. When JMM beat MAB and then Pacquiao went after MAB instead, everyone asked "WTF"? You guys said, be patient, the fight will come. I am telling you the same thing about Mayweather-Cotto.

    The only leg you are trying to stand on is this. You are trying to pull the "Mayweather is scared of Cotto" card. That's why you keep pointing out that Pacquiao had already fought JMM. But that's an entirely different argument. This argument is based on this: Highly anticipated fight being glossed over while big name fighter looks for big money. It looks like that fighter is ducking the tougher fight for the bigger money fight that is easier. Period, end of story.
     
  15. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    OK. I don't have to argue on everything. Lets see if the fight
    happens....maybe 2010 or 201?...pac vs jmm3 will mostlikely happen first before the pbf vs cotto happens....