130lbs mayweather vs current pac

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  1. akoaypogi

    akoaypogi New Member Full Member

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    That's your opinion. I say otherwise. You said like Chavez pressure, but Chavez had success penetrating the inside against Floyd, and he was not as strong as Castillo. I can imagine how much damage Pacman will do if it was him.

    Pacman at Flyweight was much like Cotto and Oscar early in their careers, much worse. I agree at Flyweight but at 122-130 thats a different story. As he moved up in weight his chin just got better. The Jab happened at 122. He got overconfident against his opponent and he payed for it. Much like Gamboa recently. Pacman beat the fella by TKO after. Against elite opponents his chin held up very well I thouht. The worse he got was JMM's punch in the second round of their rematch and his chin held up pretty well I thought. at 126-130 I've never seen him close to getting Knocked out. Consider how much shots he had taken and consider his style.

    Sorry but I have to disagree on the chin.
     
  2. akoaypogi

    akoaypogi New Member Full Member

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    Agreed :good
     
  3. right_hook_roye

    right_hook_roye Member Full Member

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    what exactly makes you think pac can win? what does pac have that pbf cant do better?

    power= fine pac does have the power but so does floyd at 130. besides almost all of floyds opponents were heavier punchers than him
    speed= floyd and pac have equal hand speed but floyd is faster on his feet and faster in terms of body and head movement
    defense= this is what floyd is best at. pac gets hit by c class fighters like larrios
    ring IQ= floyd is a helluva a lot smarter than pac and can adjust to any kind of style
    accuracy= floyd is the most accurate puncher today

    i prefer watching pac fights than floyd but pac has too many weaknesses that floyd can take advantage of
     
  4. akoaypogi

    akoaypogi New Member Full Member

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    Your making excuse now for Floyd, for his fight with castillo. Why did he fight Castillo if he was injured? Or shall I say seriously injured to fight?

    Pacman has been branded 1d and makes so much mistake, how come he's has been a successful fighter? JMM who is a very good counter puncher, known for making his opponent pay for their mistakes, could not fully dominate a guy who makes so much mistakes. I wonder hmmm.

    Pac did knocked Larios down twice. Hey Mayweather could not put Chavez and Hernandes on the deck. Bobby Pacquiao put Hernandez on the deck, and so did Morales to Chavez. So that argument means nothing. Pac would have Knocked both out in my opinion. It only proved Pac hit harder than Floyd at 130. :good

    Judah throws his punches one at a time. Pacman throws in bunch and combinations. And he has better work rate than Judah. One punch I will argue Pacman is as fast as Judah, combination Pac no doubt.

    If Pacman lost to JMM then Floyd lost to Castillo and a Hoya :hat sorry I had to use your style :p. We all know Pacman got the win on the very close fight. But I have no problem with other saying JMM won.

    Okay like I said. Me wonders why Pacman has been a succssful fighter being he is 1D fighers. Maybe he's just that great of a fighter don't you think? I agree Floyd is better than Marquez. At counter punching, Marquez is better like I said. Pacquiao will have a easier time entering Floyds range than he did Marquez. More one sided than Morales-Pacman one? Yet Morales and Floyd fought differently? I say Pacman -Floyd would be like Floyd-Castillo this time scorecard was correctly tallied and since he lost to a shot Hoya.. lets use that too. Sorry I had to use your argument :hat
     
  5. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    not true, pac was outweighed by erik, mab and jmm in their respective first fights. and if pac was that hurt in all of their fights, what would you call all of them suffering KDs/KOs in those fights while pac not going down even once. surely, they were more hurt than pac to suffer all of those KDs/KOs.
     
  6. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    i agree. but floyd wins this one via decision but not via KO.
     
  7. right_hook_roye

    right_hook_roye Member Full Member

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    i respect that :good
     
  8. PH|LLA

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    lets all hate on Pac and pick Mayweather by easy KO

    LOL

    Mayweather would have more trouble with Pac than people think. His shoulder roll defence is not that good at blocking straight lefts, which Pac can throw with lightning speed to both the body and head. Also PBF has shown that when he leads with the right hand against a fast southpaw, he is susceptible to the right hook counter, a punch that at 130 Pacquiao has pretty much mastered.

    Both have great stamina but i think Pacquiao would be the one landing most of the body shots, and would be slightly fresher in the championship rounds

    Stylewise JMM was all wrong for Pacquiao, much worse than PBF, and JMM lost by close UD. At the same time PBF has the advantage of having more power than JMM and more speed.

    I see this as a really close fight, with PBF having a slight edge and probably winning a close UD.

    Truth is PBF was never tested by a great fighter at 130. The closest thing to that was his amazing win over Corrales, but Corrales and Pacquiao are like black and white. Jesus Chavez even gave PBF quite a bit of trouble in the early goings of their fight, much more than Larios gave Pacquiao.

    I don't see how Pacquiao can beat Barrera twice, Morales twice, and go 1-0-1 with JMM, the worst matchup possible for him, and yet people think PBF would make an easy night of him, to me its crazy.
     
  9. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    well, this is already the 3rd time i'm saying in this thread that mayweather will win this one via decision but not via KO. :deal and pac only went the distance with these mexicans 4 out of 7 fights. remember pac KO'd mab once and erik twice. he also floored jmm 4-5 times in their 2 fights.
     
  10. puga_ni_nana

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    pac i think is severely underrated in this match-up. yes this is floyd's most dominant weight but remember that pac peaked at this weight. he learned to adjust to morales and learned to box with marquez. and if floyd would have fought a pac of the second morales fight, it would be his toughest fight than any of his 130 resume.
     
  11. Haye

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    Oh please. Mayweather by a wide UD or a KO.
     
  12. akoaypogi

    akoaypogi New Member Full Member

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    It's funny to me how he fought when he was injured. Sorry but that sounds like an excuse. :lol:

    If PBF was more aggressive than Marquez, then that leads me to believe Pac will have even better success than he did Marquez.

    I already said my piece on the Larios and chavez things. I think I made my case clearly.

    Youre making excuses about Floyd again. He lost arguably to Castillo and so he did against Hoya. I don't think this is even debatable. :good

    I say Pac-Floyd would be like Pac-Castillo and much worse because of his speed. And possible like shot Hoya-Floyd this time Floyd gets Knocked out. :good
     
  13. whit

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    Floyd by KO all day long.
     
  14. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    pac outslugged marquez more than marquez outboxed pac in those two fights. that's why pac won a very close SD in the second fight and should've also won an SD in the first if not for a judge's scoring error producing a draw instead. but this is already OT since we're supposed to be talking about pac and floyd here @130.
     
  15. Chert

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    hmm... and that was pac's very first fight @130 with erik outweighing him 145 to 138. but for the second fight, pac weighed 142 while erik 145 and we all know how that ended.

    mayweather via decision. :deal

    :hi: