**15 rounders: 147 lbs and up...what's your take?**

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  1. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    Let's just say we go back to 15 rounders from 147 lbs and up championship fight...what you guys think....good or bad for boxing....what boxers would benefit from the rule changes.....
     
  2. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    I think 12 rounds is sufficient to see who the better fighter was.

    15 rounders were probably better, but I think that fighters get hurt more in them.

    What I would like to see, is more 12 round fights on a single card, and good fights at that.
     
  3. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    Well it would have to be sanctioned by the alphabet soups but not North America or Country or REGION CHAMPIONSHIP...ONLY WORLD TITLE FIGHTS
     
  4. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    Like I said only on alphabet soup world titles....

    Now what fights would benefit from going 15 rounds...

    Cotto

    Calzaghe

    strong body punchers would benefit or very skillfull strong punchers
     
  5. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    About 12 rounds Brain Damage starts to become serious. So no, we should NEVER go back to 15 rounds.

    15 rounds would be good for fights and bad for fighters.

    Shorter careers by todays standards.


    But again like I said, serious brain damage starts in the 13th round.
     
  6. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    Actually there no scientific proof that this is the case....
     
  7. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    On Nov. 13, 1982, World Boxing Association lightweight champion Ray (Boom Boom) Mancini scored a knockout victory in the 14th round over South Korean challenger Duk Koo Kim. Kim, 23, sustained brain injuries and died five days later. In the aftermath, studies were conducted that showed a boxer usually absorbs more punishment after the 12th round. As a result, the World Boxing Council immediately shortened its title bouts from 15 to 12 rounds. The WBA, World Boxing Organization and International Boxing Federation later followed suit.
     
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    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    The distance is a boxing slang term used to refer to boxing matches that last the maximum number of rounds, with the match either tied or be decided by points decision.

    Until the 1980s many championship fights were a maximum of 15 rounds. This changed though, following the death of Duk Koo Kim after his fourteen-round fight with Ray Mancini.

    Ostensibly in response to studies which showed that many fighters begin to sustain permanent brain damage after the twelfth round, the World Boxing Council shortened its title fights to a maximum of 12 rounds.[1] The World Boxing Association and World Boxing Organization followed suit in 1988 and the International Boxing Federation did so in 1989.

    Non-title fights can be of any length under 12 rounds but are typically 10 rounds or fewer, however there were some ten rounds championship matches. Women's championship boxing is ten rounds or less. Each boxing round lasts 2 minutes instead of 3 for men.
     
  9. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    The WBA was forced to address the 15 rounders after the death of Dok Ku Kim, that's a fact...and the other bodies followed withing 2 years...now it was a reaction to the rare case of Dok Ku Kim...yet ..there's no evidence that will corroborate the 15 round theory
     
  10. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    There was studies, both articles say that.
     
  11. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    They were inconclusive...I am well aware of the historic change and all the articles about it...and also that there's no scientific evidence to proof that is safer
     
  12. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Oh Please Orishman, you know for a fact that serious damage to fighter starts after the 12th round.
     
  13. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    I think 15 is good for boxing yet does it make boxing less marketable:huh
    Remember all the theory about fitting the commercial format of Newtork television and being more marketable?

    Was a nice arguing point but where's all the Network Coverage been? It basically, cable, PPV, and internet so does 15 still hurt?

    Ultimately how it affects the sports programming and viewing will win out.

    In terms of a fight though? 15 makes a big difference and they used to be "The Championship Rounds"
     
  14. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    Nope, but I am repeating what I have heard from a number of boxers and agencies....