16 Clinches in 1st round!!!

This sums it up right. Wlad held all the aces and as such shouldn't have been limited to the tactics he used. Fact of the matter is, he's pretty limited skill-wise, but this is compensated for by his height, reach and general athleticism. It's the reason someone like a 'peak' Vitali (ie similar height, reach, build but more aggressive and with a chin) would steamroller Wlad.

 

It'd be bad enough if it was a fighter in another weight class, but when you're that much bigger and better than you're opponent it's just frustrating because you know what he could be doing but he chooses not to and I just don't get why.

 

thats because you are

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Because he's too cautious, he doesn't like taking chances and it works for him, maybe he's protecting his glass jaw, who knows.

 

I know.

I'm just saying that as a fan it's frustrating.

 

The funny thing is, the people who now say "Wlad had no choice but to hold" are the same people who pick him to beat the likes of Ali, Frazier, Tyson etc..

If Wlad is that technically limited that he has no choice other than to hold against a shot Mormeck, is he really good enough to beat a great fighter?

 

The Tyson one kills me. Tyson walks through Wlad as if he wasn't there.

 

I think the same thing. If I made a thread about how one sided I think it'd be, I'm sure most people would just dismiss it. I genuinely don't think Wlad could last 3 rounds with prime Tyson. Wlad would lose the fight before they step into the ring but even if he was mentally strong, Tyson would just be too good.

Nice to see that handsome face back, by the way :good

 

Prime Tyson gives anyone in history problems. However, I don't recall him fighting anyone as tall as Wlad and dominating. His fight with Tucker went the distance and Tucker had bad hands. Lewis dominated him. As long as a tall fighter fought Tyson from a tall stance, they had a good chance.

 

Height isn't as much of an issue as reach is, I don't think. Larry Holmes had longer arms than Wlad, a better jab and controlled the range better, and Tyson had no issues getting through Holmes.

Having said that, height is a statistic which is greatly exaggerated. When was the last time it really mattered in a fight? Wlad and Vitali aren't beating opponents because they're bigger, it's because they're better. Height has never, in all their combined fights, been the deciding factor for either Klitschko. Both have only lost to guys around the 6ft mark. Then you have guys like Valuev losing to small heavyweights.

It's just not that important, I don't think. Especially not against a fighter like Tyson, who wanted to fight small. Why is he at a disadvantage against a bigger man? He was never bothered by height.

 

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Mormeck´s head caused the clinches, it was not Wlad´s fault.

 

Makes John Ruiz look like a pugalist !

 

Bump

 

Wlad is a bumboy

 

Both the brothers fight the same way with respect to holding on the inside, not exciting.