168 LBS most packed and exciting divison

Theres no good comp at 168 in the US. The best the US has to offer is JT, you know, the guy who got GIFTS over Winky & Hopkins, the guy who always gets tired, the guy who doesnt listen to his corner.

 

My point exactly

 

For the record, I disagree...

BUT gifts or not, name another active fighter who's even come close to being competitive against both Hopkins and Wright?

Name another active 168 lb fighter from any country whose overall resume is as quality as JT's?

 

Only other guy who can say he fought both Winky & Hopkins is Tito, and we know how that went. But besides 2 controversial wins over Hopkins & a controversial draw with Wright, what has he done since? NOTHING! WHY? Because he got KO'd to Pav and loss his stock. No way will he ever receive gifts again, thats why he'll never fight Hopkins or Wright again. And besides, he just beat a one delusional fighter who's still having flashbacks of CalZ whipping on him. JT is a B level fighter, yes you heard that from a "***** FROM THE US"

 

"Besides accomplishing something no other active 154-175 fighter has come close to matching, what else has he done? He's a B level fighter."

I usually refrain from calling names over the internet, but I've tried reasoning with you on multiple occasions, tried to present things in a logical format for you, and so far nothing has worked... so now, all I can say is... you're an idiot.

 

And for the record I really wanted to call you an idiot after you equated Berto to Taylor p4p... a man whose biggest win is Steve Forbes to a man whose got two wins over Hopkins... but I refrained at that point.

Just to show you I've got some self control.

 

Can you tell me what has JT done besides get 3 gifts?

 

First, can you explain to me how "a B-level fighter" was even competitive with two of the best p4p fighters of the last 10 years?

This should be good...

 

Lacy, Mundine, Bika, and Miranda are C level fighters, they are either washed up or gatekeepers. Froch, Green, and Inkin are overrated. Andrade has no skill, so the division isn't action packed as you think it is. It's just full of names that YOU think are quality skilled fighters.

 

Quite stacked up really, but won't still be the bread and butter of boxing for a another year or two. 147 is still the best right now...

 

Agreed on 147, but IMO 168 has more going for it right now than any division above WW, with the possible exception of LMW where some good fights are starting to develop.

 

Hopkins was what, like 40 yrs old already.
Winky was robbed.

 

I didn't ask how old anyone was or if they were robbed.

HOW WAS A B-LEVEL FIGHTER EVEN COMPETITIVE WITH TWO OF THE BEST P4P FIGHTERS OF THE LAST 10 YEARS?

Just answer the question.

 

Because the B-Level fighter was facing a 41 yr old.
Because the B level fighter was good enough to be competitive with a style like Winky's.

 

Since the topic's related, why not share your opinion on who wins between Bika and Green on this thread http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=115611
Also feel free to express what you think should be done with the super middleweight division regarding the future match ups.