168 rankings; who is #1

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  1. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    I have Froch. In dismantling Pascal and then beating Taylor, his stock rises to #1 for me, with Bute having unfinished business with Librado Andrade and Kessler stuck under the thumbscrews of Mogens Palle. What does your top ten look like?

    1. Froch
    2. Kessler
    3. Bute
    4. Andrade
    5. Bika
    6. Green
    7. Taylor
    8. Berrio
    9. Balszay
    10. Miranda


    There is also an excellent group of #11-17 or 18 fighters too who will keep this group honest.
     
    unclepaulie, Apr 28, 2009
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  2. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Kessler is a lot better than Froch. He has a better guard, better jab, more speed, doesn't throw his chin up in the air, can slip punches, doesn't swing wildly, has just as much power etc. Froch beat Pascal by a couple of rounds, and he was 14 seconds away from getting embarrassed by Taylor. It's not as if he's done a job on the division! In any case, Pascal wasn't a guy with great enough credentials to merit top place.

    Kessler vs. Froch would look like Kessler vs. Andrade II, but with a stoppage.
     
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  3. THN

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    Kessler
    Andrade
    Froch
    Bute
    Taylor
    Green
    Bika
    Sartison
    Direll
    Ward
     
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  4. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    All fair points, and I would install Kessler as a huge favorite against Froch, but it just comes down to the fact that Froch is willing to do what needs to be done and fight dangerous contenders while Kessler is sitting on a title, managerial problems or not.
     
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  5. THN

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    Sitting on a title ? He was willing to travel to Wales with the WBC and WBA belts against Calzaghe.
     
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  6. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    And he has done (x) since then. Seriously, I'm not hating on Kessler, but his last notable fight was a loss to Joe "Mother****in'" Calzaghe. For my money, Froch is the #1 guy at 168; he is willing to go and fight anyone, and he can win in late rounds. That goes a long way with this American.
     
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  7. THN

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    So is Kessler and thats the problem his promotor, he will/can't get him the big fights, so Kessler is trying to get rid of him. Is it hard to understand?
     
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  8. unclepaulie

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    Until he does, it's Froch for me.
     
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  9. Maxime

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    01- Kessler (WBA)
    02- Bute (IBF)
    03- Froch (WBC)
    04- Andrade
    05- Taylor
    06- Bika (IBO)
    07- Balzsay (WBO)
    08- Dirrell
    09- Ward
    10- Pascal
     
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  10. THN

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    Fair enough, but he's actually trying to do something about it :good
     
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  11. Flea Man

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    The Pascal fight was very close, no a 'dismantling' IMO.

    I have Froch at 3, behind Bute and Kessler (kessler at no.1 obviously)
     
    Flea Man, Apr 28, 2009
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  12. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    Until he does, I have to back the guy taking the tougher fights.
     
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  13. Wordup

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    Yep and thats great news, but based on recent fights Froch makes a good case for the #1 spot.

    I'm a bigger fan of Kessler than I am of Froch, and think Kessler would beat him quite handily.
     
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  14. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Agreed, but does having a big girl's blouse of a promoter really make you a worse boxer P4P?
     
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  15. unclepaulie

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    No, but winning the bigger fights against the better known and obviously more fitting boxers, like I said before, goes a long way in my book.
     
    unclepaulie, Apr 28, 2009
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