175 lb 1st Round-Bernard Hopkins vs Willie Pastrano

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  1. Flea Man

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    One for the purists!

    12 rounds, no reason no vote:good
     
  2. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bearing in mind Hopkins didn't have a great deal of fights at lightheavy I see Pastrano boxing his way to a decision. Pastrano too slick and experienced to be drawn into Hopkins type of fight.
     
  3. red cobra

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    Hopkins never finds Pastrano to pull any of his tricks on..in fact he has to be told what Willie looks like after the bout, which he loses by a decision. Seriously, not only would Willie win this fight, but it would have served as the blueprint, as I've suggested, in one of my more inspired, lucid moments (which are hard to come by sometimes) to beat Hopkins. A mobile, fast, fluid boxer with great legs, and a pathological dread of getting hit, two fitting descriptions of Pastrano, would be kryptonite to Bernard. Again, Pastrano in an upset w15 Hopkins.
     
  4. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    12 rounds? Why 12? Pastrano by a 12 round decision then.
     
  5. Manassa

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    I'm wondering this as well.
     
  6. Flea Man

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    12 rounds for the early rounds.

    15 for the quarters and finals. The early fighters get an easier going in the early rounds IF they survive they have t man up and do the full 15 later on :good other weight classes have done this in their tournament brackets, not just me.
     
  7. Manassa

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    Ah fair enough, 'road to title' kind of thing. Admittedly, no fighter started their career doing fifteen rounders.
     
  8. Flea Man

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    Also, the 15 round limit automatically gives 'older' fighters a smal advantage.

    If a fghter is known for doing fantastic work in 'the championship rounds' it creates further debate if a fight is scheduled for 12. Can he do enough in the alloted 12? Etc etc:good
     
  9. junior-soprano

    junior-soprano Active Member Full Member

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    this one wouldn't be a tough one for pastrano. he will outbox him in everyway. pastrano by UD
     
  10. Bad_Intentions

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  11. Manassa

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    Yeah but on the flipside, a modern fighter with questionable stamina may, over twelve rounds, just about stave off a stronger fighter who'd have ****ed him in the next round.

    But it's a minor difference, doesn't bother me.
     
  12. red cobra

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    Since we're basically talking about CHAMPIONS here, of the past as well as present, why do they have to prove themselves in a 12 rounder at all...the 15 round limit should be a given, otherwise, why not start them out in 10 rounders or 8 rounders?
     
  13. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd prefer the 15.
     
  14. teeto

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    I like Pastrano, for one i would find it a little disresectful not to ick him actually, considering the relative careers they had at the weights, although Bernard's performances there have all been good.

    Anyway, i reckon Pastrano isn't one to be dictated to and would do a lot of hitting in bunches and moving. Bernard would win some rounds though for me, trying to slow the pace with lead stiff rights etc, but he'd lose clear.
     
  15. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    wow, glad to see pastrano is getting respect.