175 lb 2nd Round-Ezzard Charles vs Roy Jones Jr

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Terse, and to the point I think.:lol:.

    Don't you just love the English language? :good
     
  2. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    He said exactly the same thing in one of Pater's Middleweight threads. What a nob.

    And yes I do, especially the way I use it :D
     
  3. mcvey

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    You made me laugh Shakespeare .:lol:
     
  4. Flea Man

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    :d
     
  5. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    :goodGreat post. I'm sticking with the safer pick with Charles. I like his power at LHW and feel he can get Jones out of their. In a 12 round contest it's a close one to call and I'd favor a Charles SD but in a 15 round contest I have Charles winning a late TKO.
     
  6. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Charles had too much power for Jones who would be the faster fighter but its a matter of time Ezzard would land the right followed by the hook and it would be the begining of the end for Jones
     
  7. Wu-Gambino

    Wu-Gambino ESB Swordsman Full Member

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    Charles would get to him late. I think Jones is a very problematic opponent at 175 but that doesn't change the fact that Charles was leagues ahead of anyone Roy faced at the weight. Charles would be the most lethal puncher Jones would have faced throughout his entire career, and I don't know how the latter would have fared against that level of technical skill and power. Jones was supremely fast and would undoubtedly steal rounds through his sheer athletic talent, but I'm fairly confident that somewhere down the line Charles sets something up and capitalizes. Charles's ring intelligence and incredible will to win inevitably sees him through.
     
  8. Tin_Ribs

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    What he said. Charles by KO. Too skillful, too experienced, too good.
     
  9. PowerPuncher

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    I'm probably the biggest appreciaters of Jones ability on this forum, I think few would beat him at 175 in his prime but Charles is 1 of those very few. Charles has speed and athleticism to live with Jones super human ability in those facets. He was a straighter sharper shooter, great 1-2, and timing plus rangier and this would help him neutralise Jones speed. His workrate, ability to press and rough style on the inside may drag Jones into the trenches at times. I see Jones taking early rounds but Charles taking over mid-late to win a UD or late stoppage.

    Bad draw for Jones, I'd pick him over Spinks, Tunney, Moore, Greb but not Charles
     
  10. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i also like charles in this match-up.those slashing left hooks..........awesome
     
  11. Mendoza

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    Charles to me hit too hard for Jones.
     
  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Charles by a mid round knockout...for the same reasons as Robinson over Jones...I don't care that he was gifted...but quality opponents were the exception, not the norm for Jones, and this man Charles would be another kettle of fish all together for RJJ. Charles was TOUGHER and used to fighting animals, and showed his gut especially, AFTER his prime by taking it for 15 rounds with Rocky Marciano...who would have put Jones in the hospital, BTW. It would have boiled down to a "do-or-die" ending of fight, again just as Robinson would have done, by an exhibition of raw power, "old school style" that would have overwhelmed Jones. This was, also, the lightheavyweight edition of Ezzard Charles, at his very best.
     
  13. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Charles has everything and more that Jones can throw his way. I believe it would start out fast, a battle of jabs with Jones firing a salvo or two and getting immediately countered, but harder. The hurt comes much later as Charles combos start getting to jones until he finally succumbs. Charles TKO14 over Jones.

    Scartissue
     
  14. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Charles will be able to establish his jab early on and set up Jones for a mid rounds ko.
    Jones was awesome from 160-168 lbs but was a little less overpowering at LH.
     
  15. Quick Cash

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    I have not been able to follow the tournament as closely as I would have liked, sadly, so I will have to compress my thoughts on its development thus far.

    First, I am supremely bewildered hearing of Spinks' elimination. Who clipped him and what was the accompanying explanation? Please direct me to the thread, anyone.

    Second, I disagree with the outcome for Foster-Loughran, but, since I acknowledge Tommy's great ability and have great respect for the opinions of my fellow posters, I will not go into further detail. I don't quite remember if I gave an analysis or indeed if I even contributed input to the thread at all, but needless to say, I think Foster should win.

    On the topic at hand, I admit, I find myself a little lost here. I guess the safe choice is Charles-- by late knockout. However, it must be said that Jones' natural ability would be immensely troubling for the Cobra; not only his speed, but also the variety he incorporated in his combination punching. I see Roy nabbing early rounds by leaping in and then darting right out, making Charles miss. That sequence should repeat over and over in the outset. Roy would prove to be a difficult target for a time, staying well clear of the ropes and really just outboxing the great Ezzard Charles. The deciding factor for me here is Charles' ring intelligence. I don't believe Roy can capably defend himself against what here would be the smarter man's traps. I don't believe that Roy can continue to out-box Charles for the duration. If we go by what is statistically plausible, then it has to be Charles that's declared the winner.