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  1. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The books I have on the fighters. Most written in the last 30 years except for the Dempsey and Johnson and Walker sets:
    GEORGE LAVIGNE 2
    John L. SULLIVAN 2
    James J. CORBETT
    Bob Fitzsimmons 2
    James J. JEFFRIES 3
    Joe Choynski
    Sam Langford 2
    Jack Johnson 3
    Jess Willard
    Jack Dempsey 12
    Gene Tunney 3
    Max Schmeling 1 great autobiography
    STANLEY KETCHEL
    BATTLING NELSON 2
    Ad Wolgast
    Freddie Welsh
    BATTLING SIKI
    ABE ATTELL (just came out and excellent btw)
    Billy Papke
    Tiger Flowers 2
    Mike McTigue
    Harry Greb 2
    Mickey Walker 3
    Peter Jackson
    Joe Jeanette

    I have no bios with the sole subject being Joe Walcott. Maybe someday one of you writers could write one before I kick off :)
    And of course many compilations of all, like Dempsey-Firpo, Dempsey-Tunney, Gans-Nel, Johnson-Jeffries, SULLIVAN-CORBETT , Great White Hopes, etc.
    I would also like a book on Ace Hudkins and Tommy Ryan . Whom I have researched extensively.
    A great ERA.
    Would love any suggestions for other bios of fighters from that era.
     
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  2. Gudetama

    Gudetama Active Member Full Member

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    Fair play, OP. My favorite era, too, although I've looked into the period in nowhere near approaching the depth you have. If you don't mind, please may I ask your overall opinion on the articles Tracey Callis wrote on the Cyber Boxing Zone? To me they seem very well researched and referenced. He is (or was? Is he still alive and kicking?) certainly my favorite historian to read. Thank you very much, with apologies for not answering your question.
     
  3. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Callis is great. In "Ultimate Tough Guy" at the end they talk to Callis and others of the era's fighters. Fitz is truly given his due as is Jeff. Would love to just sit and talk to guys like Callis, Pollack, Moyle , Compton, Roberts, Chouinard at a bar over pitchers of beer and talk boxing history for about a year :) There are great obscure books out there about fighters (like my beloved Saganaw Kid bio) a person can find and read if they are diligent in the search. Many books are just locally published or not a ton of copies, but if you can locate them and are willing to give up the cash(sometimes a lot), you can study the fighters you like. I hope Tracey is alive.
     
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  4. Gudetama

    Gudetama Active Member Full Member

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    I'm 36, which I suppose is 'relatively' (but definitely not extremely) young on this forum. One thing I've learned already is that favour works in cycles. I always thought that Duran was the greatest lightweight ever. My love of Duran was only helped when I was given a signed glove for ten years service at a job. (Yep, I had a ten year job at a tender age. A school for especially violent boys. The staff thought I would like that better than the usual oil painting of the school). Now I see Gans in that top spot, because of my research. What happens when the youngsters stop the research? That's why this forum is historically important. And I, for one, will champion it for as long as I can. Sorry for interrupting your thread.
    Note: Gans, Duran, or Leonard, all okay with me as LW 1.
     
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  5. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Both George Godfreys, Chocolate and Shadow.
     
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    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol: dang, 31. I thought I was an old man as far as the internet is concerned.
     
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    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Lol your a spring chicken compared to some on here my friend. I'm 48 but a few posters on here that are a good few years older.
     
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  8. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The Slattery book isnt bad. I think you might like it. He lets you know how good Slattery could have been, how talented he was, without glossing over his failings personally and professionally.
     
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  9. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thx. I will look them up.
     
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  10. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What a great gift! DURAN is my favorite fighter ever. Saw him live. Man, him, Benny and Gans and George LaVigne. 25 rounds. 5 ounce gloves. No mouthpiece or handwraps. Who wins the most of the four?
     
  11. The Long Count

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    What was it that you enjoyed about the Schmeling autobiography if you don't mind me asking. I read a book on him years ago but don't think it was an autobiography.
     
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    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His sincerity. I have a lot of books on Louis, Louis-Schmeling and it was great hearing of the fights from his perspective. Beyond that, what a life! The only sad part for me, a Catholic, was at the end he says that after seeing what the Nazis did, he no longer believed in God. The book is called "Max Schmeling An Autobiography" translated by George Van Der Lipps.
     
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    Great book. One of the best boxing bios.
     
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  14. The Long Count

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    Thanks for the insight I will get this book. I read beyond the glory couple years ago. So much history is attached to Schmeling for both the time he lived and the length he lived. I mean the man grew up idolizing Dempsey and even sparring with him and lived to See the dawn of the Klitschko era and was friends with them. Talk about spanning pugilistic history.
     
  15. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No problem bud, best of luck. All I have on them is Kevin R Smith's Black Genesis and Sundowners which while good is skint.
     
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