18th Wilder V Breazeale : Thought and Predictions

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Wilder V Breazeale

Poll closed May 9, 2019.
  1. Wilder KO

    80.7%
  2. Wilder Decision

    8.8%
  3. Draw

    1.8%
  4. Breazeale KO

    5.3%
  5. Breazeale Decision

    3.5%
  1. de Morhalle

    de Morhalle Member Full Member

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    Hahaha , Wilder fighting Ortiz after Breazeale (if he wins) then fighting Kownacki . AJ Wilder will never happen .
     
  2. de Morhalle

    de Morhalle Member Full Member

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    Yeah 16 days away just over 2 weeks . I just cannot believe how many people are dismissing Breazeale for this fight .
     
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  3. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    dom is big and tough, but so was duphunuas. the frenchy had a better jab. dom does nothing well but be tough and strong.
     
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  4. de Morhalle

    de Morhalle Member Full Member

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    Same here I was torn between Draw or Breazeale SD . Your right Breazeale strengths are good against Wilder . Too many people dismissing Breazeale when Breazeale can only be beaten by constantly outboxing him and keeping him reined in something Wilder cannot do at all . This is why I think an upset is likely . I just see Wilder struggling like hell . Breazeale needs to drag Wilder around and make it sloppy and watch Wilder get frustrated .
     
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  5. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Wilder struggles here then...we've underestimated how bad he really is. This fight is BUILT for Deonkey to look good.

    Breazeale was okay as an amateur and he can take a punch (A hell of a lot of them). One argument I can understand is that maybe Deonkey doesn't throw enough in short periods of time to really punish Breazeale. That's something I've been toying with in my mind over the past few weeks, but my conclusion is the same. Deonkey will find a way and even if he doesn't, Breazeale doesn't throw anywhere near enough himself to win rounds so...

    Unless Breazeale throws more, stops playing it so safe and adapts, he's getting dominated by Wilder. Points is possible and I've come round to that idea over time, but I still think he's getting KO'd bad. But I think he'll take longer to break down for Wilder than Joshua managed to do, simply because Joshua throws more in short bursts than Deonkey does and that will be key.
     
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  6. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Early stoppage for the bronze bomber. Brezeale is too slow, and has little defence. He's not durable enough to withstand that devastating power. People who think he can ride the storm, are going to be in shock when he's blown out early.
     
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  7. de Morhalle

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    Quality post , I agree . Things I want to point out are Breazeale is a come forward guy , Wilder cannot fight on backfoot . Also Wilder has no ring technicality , you need to cut Breazeale off and whittle him down with constant quality boxing never mind looking for big shots , Breazeale's weight and durability will make it hard for Wilder and those that decide to throw down with Breazeale always end up getting clipped . These problems Wilder has are the things which Breazeale uses to his advantage in fights he will get brave and start bossing the ring . Look at the Breazeale fights and you find the niche of what Breazeale is capable of .
     
  8. TEAM_LOMA

    TEAM_LOMA This is Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder is one of my favorites right now, Wilder by easy KO
     
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  9. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I picked Wilder by KO
    but I expect him to have some scary moments
     
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  10. Max Thunder

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    Looking forward to this. Breazeale is big, slow, stiff idiot with no defense. I expect him to give Wilder some trouble. At best it could even look like Breazeale v Ugonoh, the cruiserweight sized man lands some heavy right hands putting the bigger guy on the floor just to get kayoed himself a couple rounds later.
     
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  11. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I guess there is that. I guess because AJ was so aggressive, Breazeale couldn't come forward. Wilder won't have that pressure and combinations so maybe Breazeale has more of a chance. I originally thought Breazeale didn't stand a chance, but I have come round over time to giving him a slim chance if he is brave and wants to land more.
     
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  12. Brighton bomber

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    I'd be very impressed with Wilder if he could blow out Breazeale early, when less durable guys than Breazeale have taken Wilder further in fights.

    Szpilka and Washington both have glass chins yet Wilder still took 9 and 5 rounds to figure them out.

    Arreola who was KO'ed by Stiverne was shot and as we all know is very easy to hit like DB but still went 8 rounds before quitting.

    I just don't see an early KO on the cards, Wilder is too easy to read even for someone as wide open defensively as Breazeale and even if Wilder does land early, Breazeale has shown enough toughness to ride it out. Joshua arguably doesn't hit as hard as Wilder but is a far better finisher and couldn't blow Breazeale out early when he had him hurt. I could see Wilder dropping DB early but I just don't think he is a good enough finisher to end it there and then, much like with Molina and Ortiz he'll need to gradually wear DB down maybe dropping him a couple of times before he KO's him later on in the fight.
     
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  13. de Morhalle

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    Re-watch the AJ Breazeale fight again please , you will see Breazeale actually coming forward and trying things and constantly getting shut down , especially round 6 . Remember AJ fought Molina a month or so later and AJ decimated Molina , which shows what level AJ really is and how tough and hard Breazeale really is . Breazeale needs to be under constant punching pressure from sustained combos to keep him off otherwise Brezeale gets people in trouble . Every other Breazeale fight where Breazeale almost lost was due to being out-boxed and put under pressure from fundamental boxing look at the Mansour fight , something Wilder never does , yes the Wilder power can save him it can always save him and his best hope is a quick KO round 1 or 2 otherwise this fight is gonna go bad for Wilder .
     
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  14. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yep Breazeale is teak tough, he was getting hit and still trying to come forward and land. Even when Joshua was teeing off on him he would fire back, that's what makes him dangerous, most guys cover up when getting hit hard, Breazeale will sometimes bite down and swings for the fences. Even later on when Joshua was landing and he was covering up more he would try and fire back to the body of Joshua.

    I think Joshua performance vs Breazeale is one of his best. In terms of lateral movement it's his best performance, he was stepping to the side a lot more than before or since to be honest, he was even jabbing and stepping to his left afterwards and that lateral movement made it hard for Breazeale to just plow forward as he'd find himself out of position and unable to land if he did.

    I agree you have to do something to keep DB off you otherwise he'll walk you down. Personally I think Wilder is in for a pretty rough night but his power will bail him out again. When his opponents tire that's when he more likely to land and that's when he'll be at his most dangerous.
     
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  15. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with all things. The BIG problem for Brazeale is that he's so damn easily hittable. And Wilder hits so very hard. Wilder will land without a doubt. I'm curious to see if Brazeale can get inside and do damage before he gets his clock cleaned!
     
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