190 lb Holyfield vs Oscar Bonavena

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Dec 9, 2017.


  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

    16,247
    11,716
    Sep 21, 2017
    The Holyfield who stopped De Leon
    This content is protected


    vs
    Oscar Bonavena
    This content is protected


    Who takes it? I got Holy by UD.
     
    Contro likes this.
  2. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,882
    4,700
    Jun 7, 2016
    Holyfield would be almost 200lbs anyway if he didnt have to dry out to make 190.
    His workrate at that time was immense, he was much more skilled and versatile. Bonavena wouldnt bring anything to the table that Holyfield couldnt deal with.
     
  3. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,333
    838
    Jul 22, 2004
    My sentiments too! Ringo would bully him but simply get outworked.
     
  4. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,705
    4,253
    Jun 20, 2017
    Jimmy Ellis, a good boxer, at 194 pounds knocked Bonavena down twice and beat him decisively. Holyfield was an excellent boxer, he could easily out box Bonavena. If, Holyfield decided to brawl as he often did, he'd still have the advantage in speed and boxing skills. Holyfield used angles on the inside and threw nice short punches. Holyfield should win convincingly whether he boxed or brawled, either a lopsided decision or stoppage.
     
  5. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,129
    1,762
    Jul 1, 2015
    Bonavena would make Holyfield look bad regardless. Could go either way.
     
    Reinhardt likes this.
  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

    16,247
    11,716
    Sep 21, 2017
    Look bad? Show your work!
     
  7. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,129
    1,762
    Jul 1, 2015
    Made Frazier and Ali look bad.

    Frazier and Ali were both better than a 190 lb Holyfield.
     
    red cobra likes this.
  8. 5016

    5016 Member Full Member

    153
    97
    May 3, 2014
    I'll take holyfield on the basis that he was an all time great rather than an average contender whose best win was over either a shot Folley or maybe leotis marti n.
     
  9. 5016

    5016 Member Full Member

    153
    97
    May 3, 2014
    This is like asking "who do you have? Chris arreola or sonny liston?"
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta likes this.
  10. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,305
    2,625
    Jul 20, 2004
    Bonavena might win a couple of close rounds but that's about it. The Real Deal by UD.
     
  11. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

    38,042
    7,558
    Jul 28, 2004
    Yeah, there persists an unrealistic underestimation and down grading of Ringo Bonavena. He sure as hell did make both Ali and Frazier look bad. I think he would have given Holyfield hell personally.
     
    Mr.DagoWop likes this.
  12. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,129
    1,762
    Jul 1, 2015
    I rarely say this but in this instance it's appropriate.

    YDKSAB
     
  13. 5016

    5016 Member Full Member

    153
    97
    May 3, 2014
    Ok, who did oscar bonavena ever beat which makes you think he could beat a heavyweight who appears in lots of people's top 10 lists? What was his signature win?

    Making people "look bad" doesn't mean ****. Marion Wilson made lots of people look bad and barely won a fight.
     
  14. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    8,129
    1,762
    Jul 1, 2015
    You haven't the slightest clue on how to gauge a fighter.
     
  15. 5016

    5016 Member Full Member

    153
    97
    May 3, 2014
    Right. I gauge them on their ability to win fights. Based on this criteria, bonavena comes out rather poorly. Based on his ability to impress you, though, he comes out rather well.