1908 Jack Johnson vs 1988 Mike Tyson

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Who wins and how

  1. Tyson KO

    54 vote(s)
    77.1%

  2. Tyson TKO

    5 vote(s)
    7.1%

  3. Tyson UD

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  4. Tyson SD

    2 vote(s)
    2.9%

  5. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  6. Johnson KO

    4 vote(s)
    5.7%

  7. Johnson TKO

    1 vote(s)
    1.4%

  8. Johnson UD

    4 vote(s)
    5.7%

  9. Johnson SD

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  10. No one beats Jack Johnson!!

    0 vote(s)
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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Their primes were separated by 80 years. How would a defensive genius in Johnson do against the wrecking machine that was a young Mike Tyson?
     
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  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Johnson does not look like a defensive genius on film. Tyson would savage Johnson inside 3 rounds.
     
    Mendoza, Mar 6, 2020
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  3. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Are you ****ing serious? He was a defensive master and frustrated every guy but yes, Tyson probably by ko because the boxing improved a lot since the jack time and Tyson watched every old film from old school guys
     
    Charlietf, Mar 6, 2020
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  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Yes I'm being serious. Watch the films of Johnson vs Moran or Johnson vs Willard. They are pretty even and Johnson wasn't that hard to hit. Neither Moran or Willard was skilled. Tyson is very skilled. He's land early and that would be that.

    Did you know Johnson was out boxed by a 160ish pound man in Jack O'Brien according to some primary sources and drew with a Journeyman in title matches? Both are true.
     
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  5. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    As great as Johnson was I don't think he'd be competitive against anyone who had the diet, nutrition and conditioning of someone fighting in the 1980s
     
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  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Tyson by savage first round KO.
     
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    Noel857 I Am Duran

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    It seems people on here are under estimating Johnson.He would frustrate Tyson and out box him on his way to a win on points
     
    Noel857, Mar 6, 2020
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    TheWorstEver(TWE) Active Member Full Member

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    I'm starting to think that several of these members posting nonsense are all the same person.
     
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  9. Grips

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    The Moran and Willard fights should definitely NOT be looked at when judging Johnson's defensive skill. Willard homer simpsoned his way to gas an overweight 37 yr old Johnson and the Moran fight was already fixed to go the full 20 rounds. Not very fair to judge a fighter through footage of them much past their prime IMO while judging Tyson on how he was in his 20s. Not saying Tyson wouldn't win, just an unfair outlook on Johnson.
     
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  10. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think the best Johnson could do is hold and frustrate Tyson for a bit until he gets dropped. Maybe Jack could do it longer than I think, and if it goes past 10 rounds perhaps he could get a decision , but I just can't see him beating Mike at his best.
     
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  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Tucker lasted 12 rounds and so did James Smith
     
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  12. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not against 1988 Tyson they didn’t. This is the Tyson that you made this thread about wasn’t it?
     
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    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Johnson of jeffries bout takes out tyson
     
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  14. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Marvin Hart shut Johnson down for the 2nd half of the fight. Before that Joe Choynski who was a sharp puncher, Kod; him cold. Ketchel as crude as he was Knocked Johnson down and according to Johnson had him hurt. Then there was Gunboat Smith who though a novice in 1909 ( Johnson's absolute prime ) TKO'd Johnson a a 4 round exhibition match.

    There you have it, Johnson from age 23-29.

    None of these four are close to Mike Tyson.
     
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  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Perhaps. Look at the post counts. We see guys with 20-100 total posts saying strange things.
     
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