(190lbs)Evander Holyfield vs Rocky Marciano @ cruiserweight (185lbs)

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Dance84, Apr 8, 2020.


Who wins at cruiserweight

  1. Holyfield on Points

  2. Holyfield by Knockout

  3. Marciano on Points

  4. Marciano by Knockout

  5. Draw

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I'm going to find you and put a dunce cap on you. You have to wear it for the whole day.
     
  2. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He did not say it exactly. He said " Frazier was a big strong kid but he was not marciano" judging by this article and his words i think that he trained with Frazier for a fight very early in his career, also he says a lot of nonsenses like that his rivals were all them in their primes and insinuating that no hw in history could support the pressure of marciano. He basically (tipically) ranks very high to the legend that he fought. But i have a surprise for you. Joe Louis and Dempsey were ringside in the Foreman - Norton fight and they said that Foreman was the strongest and most powerful boxer that they had ever seen. Apart from many respected boxing historians and ex-world champions

    (In the part 1974 of the article)
    https://tss.ib.tv/boxing/boxing-art...why-we-didnt-see-foreman-holmes-circa-1975-77
     
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  3. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It is simply a lie and you got exposed. You have no source of this because he never said this bull****. I did read the links from the other poster and he never ever mentioned Foreman and he did not say that marciano was stronger than Frazier neither. He said "Frazier was a big strong kid but he was not marciano"

    And now i have a surprise for you. Joe Louis and Dempsey were ringside in the Foreman - Norton fight and they said that Foreman was the strongest and most powerful boxer that they had ever seen. Apart from many respected boxing historians and ex-world champions.

    (In the part 1974 of the article)
    https://tss.ib.tv/boxing/boxing-art...why-we-didnt-see-foreman-holmes-circa-1975-77

    "forgive me if I think their opinion has more credence than yours"
    Lol
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    He said been in the ring with. He was in the ring with Foreman. :lol:

    If you can't make out what he meant by the Frazier quote, you're slower than I thought.

    I don't know what you're trying to prove. I think Foreman and Liston are the strongest men ever anyway. I was pointing out just how strong Marciano was.

    Louis and Dempsey wasn't ever in the ring with Foreman, and Moore was both smarter and better than both. I'd give him more prestige, even though I don't agree with him. Dempsey is ridiculous at times too, he scored a fight 2-1-7 once...
    Hym I "got exposed". What are you, a child? It's a famous quote, "Marciano was the strongest man I was in the ring with" since Moore was in the ring with Foreman, I can extrapolate and say he thought Marciano was stronger than Foreman.

    "got exposed" :jaja-no:
     
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  5. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What a trash post jesus.
    So you were arguing that marciano was stronger than Foreman because according to you moore said it(it is lie he never said it).
    But after arguing in several posts you end saying that you don't even think that rocky was stronger?
    It proves that you are nothing but troll idiot.
     
  6. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he never faced foreman ****ing ******ed

    what he meant is what he said.. He was a big strong kid but he was not marciano, insinuating that he was not the same figure overall

    Louis fought marciano and he knew foremam closely. I can say the same about Moore ,never fought foreman neither dumb ****
     
  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    No... He trained him. :lol:
    Sorry, can you not read properly? It clearly goes from talking about Frazier's strength to Marciano; implying Marciano was stronger.
    "Knew him closely" :lol:

    Was he his trainer? Did he train him?

    No.

    Moore knew better.
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    The point is that Moore said it (which he did you're just too ******ed to get it) and so someone in the know has a high opinion of Marciano's strength. I happen to think that's quite important.
    This has been the general perception of you since you rejoined.
     
  9. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    English is not my language and still i understood what he meant much better than you. if he had wanted to say "marciano was stronger than Frazier" he would have said it simple like that. you are making your imaginary interpretations.
    And even if he thought it, this is still a nonsense. But the part that you invented was moore claiming that marciano was stronger than Foreman, you did not post any link about it. You are the perfect definition of a troll,
    debating for hours on a topic and at the end you recognize that even yourself do not believe the opinion that you are defending, that means that you are a boring guy and you are looking to argue about anything.
    Go back looking the support from other posters lol.
    I don't spend my time with you anymore
     
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  10. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    dumbest and most incoherent comment in the history of this forum lmao
     
  11. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Moore might of said it but Moore bullshited a fair bit. He said when fans asked who was the best fighter he faced he'd say Marciano because he knew it's what they wanted to hear. But in truth it was Charles Burley.

    This was also around the time civil rights were coming through. You tell a white audience what they want to hear, unless you're the new generation like Ali
     
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  12. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    You're reading too deep, he obviously implied Marciano was physically stronger than Frazier
     
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  13. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    After the fight Holyfield said it felt like being in a tumble dryer with a bunch of rocks.
     
  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Does Ezzard Charles not exist?
     
  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    George C isn't a iiar ,he may have been mistaken , but he is a good guy and a fine poster