1920-1940 was the golden age of boxing

I think Joe Louis would knock Miller unconcious

 

He is taller than all but Carnera no argument, he isnt similar in height to Dempsey he is two inches taller,he is 3 inches taller than Schmeling,an inch taller than Braddock,half an inch taller than Baer, and an inch and a half taller than Louis. It seems pretty clear to me.
He is also heavier than all of them bar Carnera.
Dempsey and Tunney never got with 8 pounds of 200 again this is clear .
I've never in this thread said either Usyk is" huge ",a" big guy."
WTF you are arguing about has me beat!

 

I'm not arguing with you. That is the post you originally you quoted. That post wasn't directed at you, it was responding to someone else.

You replied to my post. I just quoted your reply.

If all your interested in is arguing the semantics of whether or not 2 inches is considered close or 8 pounds is considered close that's up to you. Otherwise I don't understand why you are replying to me.

 

Yes, the 1920s were stacked - WITH AMERICAN BOXERS!

It was a decade, where most (and just about ALL that really mattered!) boxing took place in the US... where boxers from the North American talent pool fought mainly amongst themselves. World title fights usually took place in the US, with most of them being all-American affairs... with hardly any "disturbance" from the outside world.

Today boxing is truly international. Not only has pro boxing spread to all corners of the world, but with travel of course being much easier, we now see many more fights between boxers from different countries/continents. So today it doesn't really matter what part of the world you come from... if you're good enough, you will have an equal opportunity to reach the top. Even if you're not from the US!

 

Where I live, in London, England, I'd say the 1910s to 1930s was the heyday. Within a small radius of where I am there were dozens of venues that put on professional boxing shows every week. Boxing is not doing badly at all now but there's nowhere near the amount of boxers and boxing as there was then.

 

While I don't agree the 20's thru the 40's were the golden age, I think the time period is longer, say from the mid 30's through the late 80's. I can certainly understand the reasoning behind it. Some feel boxing is more international today, but the sport of boxing have always been international, look at the history, their have been plenty of champs that have come from Asia, Central and South America, Mexico, Africa, The Caribbean Islands, Europe, the only difference today is the infusion of talent from former Communist countries. But even then a number of great Cuban fighters became dominate world champs, Like Gavilan, Ramos, Chocolate, and if I remember right Napoles, (either their or Panama) So to say its more International today is wrong in my opinion.

 

20 years ago how many boxers came from Russia and the Ukraine?

 

For some reason your trying to argue, because I DID say the only difference is the infusion of talent from former communist countries, (Those are former communist countries ,,,right?) Look this is a different post, and a different subject. But my opinions still stand about Monzon.

 

Or may you didn't know those were communist countries .

 

I don't see this as being particularly important to be honest.

The deepest talent pools in sport do not result from global representation.

They result from extreme representation in one or two locations.

 

WTF has this thread to do with Monzon?

 

Yes I knew that, my point is that boxing is more " internationalised" since the break up of the Soviet Union.Prior to that there were no Russian or Ukranians pro fighters were they? Since then we have had several and two Ukrainians are currently champions.

 

So those two countries make it more intentional? In my opinion its always been international, plenty of different countries have had boxing champs the past 100 yrs. Hell the flyweights were basically owned by the Asian countries for yrs.

 

So you believe, the best breeding ground for producing great fighters is s closed society, where the same boxers meet each other over and over again - with hardly any interaction with the outside world?

 

Of course they make it more international. Look at the Ring Magazines from the 1950s and see how many titles were held by non Americans.To deny boxing has grown more global in the last quarter of a century is absurd.