1923 Dempsey vs Current Burger Squad; who wins?

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  1. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    thats what Stiverne and his promoter thought as well.:deal
     
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  2. Serge

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    They also thought Stiverne was going to be healthy when they signed to fight him too aka the real Stiverne. :deal
     
    Serge, Nov 1, 2015
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I do give Wilder credit for beating that Stiverne though. Granted it wasn't the real Stiverne but that Stiverne was still better than all the stiffs he's fought.
     
    Serge, Nov 1, 2015
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  4. drenlou

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    so you really think a Heavyweight could be severily dehydrated?
     
    drenlou, Nov 1, 2015
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  5. Serge

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    Yeah. I listened to a podcast a few days before the fight and heard a respected fight scribe say that Stiverne had entered camp grossly overweight and spent the last few weeks leading up to fight in the steam room trying to shift the excess blubber. I don't recall seeing too many HWs reaching for liquids after stepping of the scales either.
     
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  6. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Brian Nielsen was dehydrated against D/ck Ryan and that's the only reason why he lost that fight when trying to reach 50-0.
     
    Big Ukrainian, Nov 1, 2015
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  7. drenlou

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    thats a one in a million chance of happening. Maybe he was dehydrated, but i doubt even a rematch would be much different meaning Dempsey even at this time and age would only have a punchers chance just like anybody with two hands imo.
     
    drenlou, Nov 1, 2015
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  8. drenlou

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    didnt Tyson beat him first at 49-0?
     
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  9. The Long Count

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    Dempsey slaughters him. If Moliana can go 9 and rock him and Duhaupas can go 11 competitively a far better fighter Dempsey would take him out. Yes he is undersized but Wilder has looked very poor against pressure and ang ain't mediocre opponents. Dempsey wasn't mediocre and he was great at pressure. Dempsey KO1
     
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  10. Erik

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    Boxing hipsters love to overrate old time fighters because they think it makes them look more knowledgeable then they actually are. Dempsey would be pretty puny against modern heavyweights but with Wilders chin anything is possible.
     
    Erik, Nov 1, 2015
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  11. drenlou

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    Well, will the real Stiverne please stand up, because Wilder is the no.1 American Heavyweight in the world!:deal
     
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  12. Erik

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    Willard was an unskilled fat oaf who came out of a three year retirement to fight Dempsey.
     
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  13. Big Ukrainian

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    No Tyson beat him at 62-1 :)
     
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  14. madballster

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    We're talking about Dempsey if he was born in 1985 and he's 30 today, but he trained, developed and grew up in modern times?

    Or we take 1923 Dempsey and put him in a time machine. He'd be a LHW or CW today.
     
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  15. Benitom3

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    6'1.5 192 lbs . Lean, mean, tough and bricks as fist
     
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