[1929 - 31 articles] Jim Corbett: No fan of prime Max Schmeling's skills!

That reflects his level of activity.

If they gave trophies out for beating him, when a world title fight was on the line, then Sharkey and Uzcdun would not have one!

 

I would suggest that Corbetts words were in his opinion a critical appraisal of Schmelling, with no doubt a hint of patriotism thrown in being that the heavyweight title was historically US centric re title holders.

Corbett in his heyday was arrogant and rather prone to being a wind up merchant, so i guess wise heads should extract any pearls of wisdom that Corbett stated and consign the rest to the trash bin.

 

No it wasn't .. in the first fight Sharkey was beating him till the foul .. by the second it is said it was a bad decision so that mean they split .. that aside, Sharkey primed in the late 1920's and was never at his best in the 1930's .. the prime Sharkey was the better fighter ..

 

I think anyone who could have come along in Corbett's day and pummeled him would be doing very, very, very well indeed.

Time-machining later fighters back to meet Pompador Jim -- possibly you're right, though I wonder if hundreds may be stretching.

 

They fought only three full rounds in their first fight and Schmeling was usually a slow starter. Are you going to tell me that Sharkey proved his superiority in three rounds?

The second fight was clearly won by Schmeling. It was close, but clear decision and that's why it's still called a robbery. You can argue that Sharkey wasn't at his best in their 2nd meeting, but it doesn't change the fact that Max did better in their fights and against mutual opposition.

 

You're contradicting yourself .. in the first fight it was agreed Sharkey was winning easily and then the foul .. the second fight was not just a robbery but a stinker because Sharkey was on the way out and fought flat and Max won more rounds but never dominated in anyway .. again, Sharkey was prime in 26 and 27 when he was fighting Godfrey, Wills and Dempsey .. by 1930 he was past it ..

 

He won two of three rounds and it's not like he dominated him, even if he indeed looked better. Are you going to tell me that Sharkey proved his superiority because he wom two rounds?

 

I think he was saying that 1) That Jack won more rounds than Max over the two fights, it was close but without seeing all the second fight I tend to agree and 2) he was saying that he felt a prime Sharkey was better than Max, an unpopular opinion but one I agree with.

 

For whatever it is worth, I consider Corbett to be one of the less reliable heavyweight champions, with regards to his testimony.

Schmeling I consider to be one of the more reliable.

 

I disagree, because I scored what we have from second fight clearly for Schmeling. Two rounds from first fight is not enough to overcome that.

Fair enough, but again I disagree. Schmeling was more consistent and better against common opponnents, he also has much better win that anything Sharkey accomplished. That makes me picking Schmeling clearly, although Sharkey was very good too.

 

I'm happy to disagree too, it's a close call. I scored the available footage to Max by only one but I'm a big Sharkey fan so...BTW while the majority had Max winning the second bout, some did score it for Jack. I agree that Schmeling did better against common opponents but would counter that Jack had several marque wins over non-common opponents, Wills, Godfrey, Loughran. For certain, the Louis wins tops anything Sharkey accomplished-damn the Dempsey low blow!

 

That sounds rather unbiased for the media

 

I've read many accounts that he won all three and had Max groggy in the fourth .. that said I feel Sharkey was the much better fighter prime for prime .. Schmeling of course had the most legendary victory ..

 

You can watch them, it's true that Sharkey got better of Max in these rounds, but first round is even to me and I don't think that Schmeling was groggy at all:

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Much better? Based on what? I'm usually Sharkey defender here, but what did he ever do in the ring to make you believe that he was much better fighter than Schmeling?