1931 v 1981 heavyweights - who wins?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mrkoolkevin, Feb 17, 2016.


Who wins the most fights?

  1. 1931

  2. 1981

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  1. Unforgiven

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    C00ney was KO'd in 5 by Michael Spinks at the same career stage as Baer was when he lost to Nova.
    Baer hit a helluva lot harder than Michael Spinks.
     
  2. Unforgiven

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    Impellietiere was rubbish, but it says more about the "top-10 rankings" than the actual era.

    David Haye recently beat a bum who the WBA had ranked at #8. That should be an indictment on the WBA, rather than reason to believe the heavyweights of 2016 are bums.
     
  3. The Mongoose

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    How, we know little about him.

    When he was rated, he was coming off strong performances in defeat to top 5 men, and a win over a than top 10 contender Ford Smith.
     
  4. The Mongoose

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    We don't know he was rubbish. He gave two of the top men hard fights and best at least one contender.
     
  5. The Mongoose

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    We don't know his full record.

    At the time he was rated, he gave two top men hard fights and beat one man who was rated top 10. That briefly earned him a low end spot.

    Ratings were not as protected than, these men fought so frequently, only recent events counted.
     
  6. Unforgiven

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    I've seen him fight. He's not good. He's brave, that's the best I can say about him.
     
  7. janitor

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    Good to see you again!
     
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  8. The Mongoose

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    Carnera fight looked like a bit like Pulev vs Wlad
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    Who did Impellietiere ever beat ?

    I'm not buying the RING magazine top 10 rankings as legit representation of a true top 10.
     
  10. The Mongoose

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    Ford Smith got him the rating.

    Ford Smith appeared to have a decent run going at the time with wins over the recent top 3 Art Lasky and the popular Buddy Baer, and only losing to a top 5 guy in Retzlaff.

    The ratings are what they are, an attempt at tracking who was hot at that moment. With everyone fighting monthly or more...can see that being chaotic like modern NBA or college basketball, which is why applying modern standards as the OP is trying is useless.
     
  11. mr. magoo

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    If 1981 is the year in question being compared to 1931, then a man like Gerry C00ney needs to be viewed in a different light than the one who saw him fighting Michael Spinks and George Foreman.. That early 80's version of C00ney was dangerous, confident and tenacious. Not to mention keeping busy and not yet affected by bad lifestyle habits.
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

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    You too! Great to see some of the old faces still here mate.
     
  13. mrkoolkevin

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    And none of these men would sniff a top-10 ranking in 1981. These are inferior fighters with inferior backgrounds. If for some reason you can't see that by watching the film, just look at their biographies. Ask yourself: If your life depended on you assembling the better group of boxers, would you want ones who had distinguished themselves as amateurs against the best talent in the world, or would you want farmers and cowboys who'd distinguished themselves against the part-time boxers in their parts of Montana and Minnesota? Would you want a hodgepodge of former welterweights, middleweights, and light heavyweights or solid, athletic 215-230 lb men?

    This stuff isn't rocket science. In fact, I don't understand how any rational, reasonable person could fail to recognize it.
     
  14. The Mongoose

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    Lasky and Buddy were not master boxers but they were tall and long power punchers who could take punishment.

    Yet, they can't sniff a top 10 that features Cobb? Oh please...

    Always a place in any era for big men who can give and take.
     
  15. mr. magoo

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    That's true.. The early 80's featured such contenders as Scott Ledoux, Lorenzo Zanon, Tex Cobb, Lucien Rodriguez, Alfredo Evangelista and a completely diminished Ken Norton... Can't see why a man like Buddy Baer couldnt' find a way to nose his way in there.