1931 v 1981 heavyweights - who wins?

Lasky was big framed, his head was huge, lean but not a bean pole in appearance. He had big legs and developed biceps.

Lasky has a shot at knocking at least one of them out.

Buddy was no side show, he out slugged Abe Simon. He was strong, tough, big, and athletic. Untested? Be consistent with that criticism.

 

Yeah, read up on him.

 

Holmes in a good fight
Sharkey close because 31 is not best version of him
Schaaf never stopped until the primo bout when he should not have been in ring. Baer nearly stopped him but was saved by bell. Durable fighter with good wins on his ledger I think ****ey's inability to take him of hurts him and Schaaf wins late rounds for UD
Dokes way more skilled
Page
Coetzee good fight Walker is underrated at heavy
Berbick Loughran not big enough but wouldn't bet my house on it. Loughran way more skilled
Stribling by 81 Spinks was journeyman quality
Tillis
Tuffy Griffiths
Baer easy

 

Holmes
Sharkey
Carnera
****ey
Levinsky
Walker
Loughran
Stribling
Tillis
Cobb
Baer

 

Page has just as much chance to beat Levinsky as Levinsky does to beat Page. Neither of them showed any crazy talent and were both mediocre.

Walker is way more skilled than Coetzee and showed he can handle the bigger men.

 

Greg Page was the Lee Oma of his generation. He might beat some one good. He might lose to some one bad. In any era there are st least one Lee Oma. Back in the 1980s he was called Greg Page.

And that's really the difference between a contender and a champion in all eras. The champions have more than one elite win in them. The contenders don't.

The problem is a lot of historians get a hard on for a contender wearing a plastic belt but they remained contenders regardless of the belt because practically none of them had enough elite wins in them to make one successful defence. That's because they were really contenders all along.

 

No I disagree. Page was talented, but you can't dole out only the performances that were good and say "that's why he beats Oma". The reality was the guy was good one night then he would let you down the next, only there were more let downs than anything else. So in the scheme of things Page amounts to exactly what Oma was. And that's no shame. Neither of them were champs.

All these guys from across the eras you can't predict how they do because each of the non champs only had limited wins worth anything. You could match them up and both guys put out one of the many dud performances they had bellow world class. It's no good saying "on their best night", because the best night performance has already been used up. That's how they got rated in the first place. Using it up.

There's a poster on here saying it's a clean sheet for the 1980s boys..which is ridiculous. They could not string wins at top level. And that goes for the 30s boys too.

 

I wouldn't say Page was that skilled. He has a couple good wins over mediocre heavyweights but he lost most top fights he had and his recorded is padded with journeyman. Levinsky has wins over Loughran, Uzcudun and other contenders as well as close fights with several guys like Carnera and Walker.

Page edges him on resume. Levinsky never really had a problem with reach, he just wasn't that good of a fighter. These guys aren't good enough to make a definitive answer but if it makes you happy that I glorify the 80s heavies however crappy they were then fine. Page beats Levinsky.

 

Please.