1939: Old George Foreman replaces Galento vs Joe Louis

Foreman got hit more times by Holy than Louis did by any fighter he met in the ring, Foreman wasn`t that good at all v Holy.

 

he did but he was facing holy the best ver of him

but your avoiding still on showing me proof of Louis facing anybody like George louis fought who bullied and made people fight him from distance cause he hit hard and was still ok at cutting the ring

holy didnt just stay in front brawling the whole match I know for fact max the most dangerous guy in louis era never made louis stay outside most the match
which shows max wasnt even close to as dangerous as a old George

 

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The opponent abandoned their position by overreaching because Joe Louis moved out of range, Joe Louis capitalized with a counter uppercut. His footwork was very basic but it's not bad

 

Max Baer killed 2 men in the ring and is considered one of the greatest punchers....how many men has George killed in the ring? Buddy Baer is also an ATG puncher at 6'6" 250lbs who knocked Louis out of the ring Primo Carnera was a huge man much bigger than fat old George at a natural and muscular 6'5 3/4" 260-275, Abe Simon was a top fighter of his day who was at 6'4" was a solid 250 not a soft and weight lifting 260......he fought quite a few ATG punchers his real issue was never stepping up to the challenge it was his bum of the month club where he went from world class fighter to less then and had to stay at a champions level against a crazy guy who KO's alot of fighter at 5'9" and fairly stout who fought low and over 230lbs Louis lifted him off his feet with a single left hook....he got caught by a punch he didn't see and wasn't expecting and yes Galento could punch and take it he got up and suddenly woke up....your bias is making your ignorance worse fighters today dance more that in Louis time other than that fighters were better skilled then and much tougher in the era of the 5 oz leather gloves and 6-8oz after 1948 Foreman wasn't getting hit with those. Fighters then were fighting depending on state were fighting 10-15-20 rd fights and fought every round.....Joe Louis was nearly the size of Ali he was leaner because of his era. You clearly dont know anything about speed corrected film, eras and or the grainy B&W film from Louis era....you lose much of their real style in those

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Ali got dropped by undersized fighters like Henry Cooper and Frazier but Foreman couldnt even stagger him so why wouldn't an ATG fighter with sniper accuracy and machine gun speed in close not hurt big George?

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Holy was very easy to hit at that stage of his career, Louis was far more skilled than Holy.

 

Nah Holyfield had more dimensions to his game. Not to say Louis wasn't skilled

 

Not true but this comes from not watching enough Joe Louis.....the main difference in Holyfield from Louis besides Louis power is Holyfield danced but had the !Jerry Quarry weakness once he got hurt he went to war....Joe Louis was methodical in different intensities .....he stalked like a predator methodical but vicious and cobra quick

 

Holyfield had better head movement in the pocket as in he implemented rolling with shots, weaving, and slips into his inside game and he could pull counter. Holyfield also had a mean cross guard when needed and was a more consistent counter puncher than Joe Louis. He combinations were also more refined and his movement was better. Louis was good but he was basic and methodical.

 

Completely disagree his subtleties are lost on BW film and there is a reason that anyone who saw Louis thought he was the greatest heavyweight champion of all time....they were different fighters but Holy as good as he was was no Louis

 

foreman knocks him out

 

I think old George gets beaten up badly.

 

And those fast combinations of Louis would penetrate George’s cross arm defense.

 

right I keep telling him that yet he wont show any proof of Louis fighting anybody who bullied like George or who Louis fought who he had to fight from distance cause they hit to hard I asked him 3 times to name a person he refuses

everything you said was right for holy his punch tech was Louis like but with way more added upperbody and Lower body movement even though me and you dont get along you know I always argee to logic and fact

 

thinking is wrong I know for fact George would win from the reasons I showed and proved nothing is proven for Loius fighting anybody close to George

 

You asked me once and I gave them to you dummy....it seems in your mind if they hit like Foreman Louis would have stayed at long range period and what I am saying is you clearly don't understand or know enough about how bad of a man and how good Joe Louis was. Has it ever occurred to you that had George not been who he was 10 years out of the ring and a hell of a salesman who had everyone intrigues he would never have made it through the top 10 to get a title shot....Tommy Morrison who wasn't 1/2 the fighter of Joe Louis outboxed Foreman and an ATG who defended his title 25 times and for nearly 12 years could not have beaten him? Jimmy Young did it Ali did it Morrison did it and Holyfield a former 178 lb amateur Olympian and cruiserweight champion who fought 5'7" Qwai tooth and nail for 15 rds at 187lbs a naturally smaller man and less powerful man did it