I dont thank Louis would have been intemadated by Tyson lke so many of his opponents were and Louis was Fast enough and Stronge enought with his punches to keep tyson off him
Louis didn't like to be pressured and Tyson had a hard time with fighters with reach, accuracy and power. I think Tyson's speed and relentless aggression could break Louis down, but if Joe catches him on his way in, with that criminal right hand? No decision in this fight, someone's goin' out. I'll take Louis only because Tyson never got hit with razor sharp rights like that.
I think Louis takes it. Just the shorter more precise punches that would decide this. Tyson isn´t much bigger than him so this would be an advantage. Tyson is a bit faster but Louis is the harder and more accurate puncher. Imo Louis counters Tyson coming in and lays him out inside 5 rounds.
I pick Tyson, but im not totally convinced, imo Louis will be wanting to take this into the trenches, where he's more proven.
This match has been done to death on this forum as well as many others, but always makes for interesting discussion. First of all, I think that if I were to match these guys up, I would start by taking the 1938 version of Louis who had just avenged himself against Max Schmeling. Louis was still fairly young, and had chalked up a nice long list of recent world champs who were at or near prime. I think by 1942, his comp quality had slipped a bit, and although may still have been near his best, was probably not quite peak by this point. Tyson of 1988, is most likely the best rendition. He was still managed by Bill Cayton, training with Kevin Rooney, and for the most part seemed focussed enough to compete with just about any great. His problems really didn't start until the divorce with Robyn Givens and the firing of Rooney some months after the Spinks match. Both men were ferocious on the inside. Louis was deadly with his lightening fast combinations, while Tyson's right to the body and uppercut to the head was dropping heavyweights like flies. Both men had proven their chins against decent punchers. Tyson took some big shots from fighters like James Smith, Pinklon Thomas, and Tony Tucker, while Louis had survived the likes of Max Baer and Primo Carnera. Tyson had also proven his ability to at least go 12 rounds, and Louis would later show that he could go 15 ( probably not a factor in this one though.) Who wins? Difficult to say. Louis did however mention that he did not like swarmers who crowded him. Shorter fighters who liked to lower their center of gravity and come in for the kill like Rocky Marciano and Tony Galento certainly seemed to give him some serious trouble. Tyson, on the otherhand was bested by boxers who utilized the jab from the outside, and possesed a signifant amount of height and clinching ability to neutralize his attacks. I'm not sure that this describes Louis accurately. Lastly, it would certainly seem that Tyson was an incredibly fast starter, and although Louis began quickley as well, Joe at times got in trouble early as seen against Schmeling, Braddock, Walcott, Galento and B.Baer. Tyson however was usually troubled or beaten over a progression of rounds, something that I don't think is going to unfold in a match between two big sluggers. No way do I see a decision or late stoppage happening here. This match is likely going to be over within 4 rounds or less. That being said, I would probably pick Tyson due to: A. His swarming style-something that Louis struggled with B. His tendency to start fast, verses Louis's habit of getting in trouble early. C. His overwhelming power and handspeed, which was likely more than that of any Joe ever faced. D. His extreme resolve in feeling unbeatable, at least through 1988. E. His tendency to do well against punchers, wheras boxers were the ones who typically troubled him-something that Louis wasn't.
Well, I think this would be a very fast paced fight and that Tyson´s fast start and aggression would work against him here. Tyson could be timed coming in and if anybody can do this than it´s Louis - additionally I think Tyson would be a bit insecure due to Louis own aura and thus starting even more aggressive but at the same time a bit nervous which would lead to his loss in this one.
I think Louis would win if you came forward against Louis you were gonna get hit often while Mike's head movement was great Louis was so accurate and had every punch mastered in his arsenal and I see Joe beating Tyson on the inside were he holds the advantage. Louis gets up from a knock down to stop Tyson late.
Tyson puts him down in the first, but Louis rises off the canvas to stop Tyson. As a composite puncher he was superb, and this is the key I believe.
Tough call. If they came along and peaked at the same time, I'd like Louis a little, 3-2 or something like that. Now, taking each from his own day, I think it's about 50-50. I think they both like a medium-close distance, so I see a lot of offense and not a long fight. Both great finishers. It might come to who gets to the other first. On Mike's side, I think it takes a bit more to hurt him. On Joe's side, I think his punching can be a bit more compact, and his hands are pretty quick, so I think he has a fair chance to beat Tyson to the punch. I think it's a 50-50. Now, I'm presuming Tyson is slipping/ducking the jab pretty well. I've seen Tyson where he wasn't slipping, and his hands would rise above their normal position; then, when he'd punch, he'd drop hands to their normal position. Joe certainly wouldn't miss that. But I'm presuming Tyson's got his defense going. Even at that, Joe would use the jab to try to position Tyson.
First time I heard someone apart from McGrain use the term "composite puncher" before I'll pick Tyson by KO around 4, but it wouldn't surprise me if Louis won. These are the top two overall punchers in history imo, and bombs would be flying. Tysons edge in speed, and power would make him the favorite though. He also took the better single shot.
