1945-52 Jersey Joe Walcott vs 1925-32 Jack Sharkey

Walcott was past his best too even more than charles, anyway in their third fight walcott knocked him out with a master clean shot one of the best in history and it was not a lucky punch at all , with all respect this afirmation is a bull****, he landed the punch that he wanted to land, this one was a clean accurate shot not a crazy haymaker.

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I do. He won by brutal Ko and decision and charles won 2 decisions and one of these fights was very close,charles never "schooled" Walcott. Plus walcott won the last 2 fights so he avenged the losses.

 

Charles won the 2nd by a 13 point margins, he also had him absolutely reeling from a beautiful counter. To me, that's a schooling. And that was the "close" one. The first fight was perceived by the public as an even clearer win.

Then again, he won't reply since I shopped him so bad last time.

 

I agree. Both men had huge wins in the ring and both had plenty of less than desirable nights as well. Anything could happen

 

Who knows....a young Mike Tyson may have lost to the same guys.

 

Brutal as in it was a total foul and should have been a dq. It was a low blow & sucker punch combo

 

I can’t agree with that at all.

 

In 52 rounds Walcott landed a punch like that once. I think it's safe to say he couldn't do it again.

 

Who cares about it? The point is that this actually happened ,he knocked charles cold out. End of history

 

And Charles beating him easily twice is there on film. As is Charles having better results vs other guy they both thought. It's pretty clear Charles walked away the better man with the better career. Actually, I don't know why you'd try an argue otherwise.

You don't respond on the punchers thread? I was really interested on why Cuevas was a bigger puncher than Ike Williams. Truly.

 

61kos of 126 wins not the ko% of Marciano exactly.
Cuevas 31kos in 35 wins. Of course i know that the ko% is not everything but yes, it is one of the indicators.
Of course that ike williams is the much better fighter but if we are talking only about pure power yes, cuevas can be rated as harder puncher. Cuevas had clearly heavier hands and ike had to hit again and again and again with good combinations.
But saying that ruben Carter was pfp bigger puncher than pipino cuevas is a total trash.

Read a little.

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/hardest-hitting-welterweight-in-history.117458/

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The next time you're resentful of an answer from me, don't intentionally look for me in another thread to answer against me like a child.
Get a nice day

 

Close? Sharkey is losing clearly 5 vs 9

 

Sure, all fair but the fighters who Ike disposed of are ATG level fighters, with ATG level toughness. Mr. Cuevas never did such a thing. He beat up old men and no hopers. And whilst Ike had excruciating combinations, Cuevas needed plenty of punches to finish off inferior competition in his own right. Look at how poorly he takes it to finish off Ranzany, who took plenty of bombs in that 2nd round before going down. Had that been Carter, or even Ike, I doubt he'd have took that many. My opinion, of course.

You never responded to my points. Griffith has an otherworldly chin, Carter destroyed it. Rodriguez has an amazing chin, Carter dropped him. As the other guy said he's basically the McClellan of the 60s. Cuevas never broke someone as good as Griffith like that, and he also never hurt someone like Rodriguez.

Avelar was just the flyweight version of Cuevas, he showed equally devastating power whilst much smaller and took out much better fighters in Oguma and Vásquez off the top of my head.

I meant no offence, I simply wanted to know why, since you didn't reply when I asked you.

And I never "intentionally look[ed] for you" in this thread: you quoted me on this topic, I replied to that politely and asked you my questions from the other thread again. You can say that's childish but you replied (which was all I asked for) and in spite of replying you still insult me? Why? What have I done to warrant that? If you're annoyed, be civil. It's make this place and most others more enjoyable, and makes you look more respectable. Since you replied to me on the Cuevas topic, and I shall read the article to get your perspective, why don't you reply to the topic on this thread? It shall be interested. I don't see how one clear win, over rules too clear wins.

Have a good day too.