1947's Ring Champs v 1987's Ring Champs

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    How do you see these match ups between the class of Febuary '47 and April '87** going?


    Joe Louis v Micheal Spinks

    Gus Lesnevich v Chalres Williams *

    Rocky Graziano v Thomas Hearns *

    Sugar Ray Robinson v Jorge Vaca

    Ike Williams v Julio Cesar Chavez *

    Willy Pep v Antonio Esparragoza

    Manuel Ortiz v Miguel Lora *

    Jackie Patterson v Sot Chitalada



    This thread was actually just going to be about Louis-Tyson, but disguised, I messed up the time line, but I think i'll leave it. Louis-Spinks is certainly fascinating and there are other stand out matches like Williams-Chavez & Graziano-Hearns, these would be blockbusters.

    Feel free to make one pick of have a stab at all 8, how do you think these champs, ruling 40 years apart, would match up.

    Amsterdam if you make picks please use your era-era system rather than KO1 system :D


    * These are the #1 contenders as no champ was crowned at that time.

    ** MDWC is a smart arse.
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

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    Joe Louis v Micheal Spinks
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    Rocky Graziano v Thomas Hearns *
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    Sugar Ray Robinson v Jorge Vaca
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    Ike Williams v Julio Cesar Chavez *
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    Willy Pep v Antonio Esparragoza
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  3. janitor

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  4. Holmes' Jab

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    Joe Louis v Micheal Spinks: Louis TKO3

    Rocky Graziano v Thomas Hearns: Hearns UD15

    Sugar Ray Robinson v Jorge Vaca: SRR KO6

    Ike Williams v Julio Cesar Chavez: Chavez TKO13

    Willy Pep v Antonio Esparragoza: Pep UD15

    Manuel Ortiz v Miguel Lora: Lora SD15
     
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  5. mcvey

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    Louis ko 6
    Lesnevich dec
    Hearns ko 5
    Robinson ko 3
    Williams dec
    Pep dec
    Ortiz dec
    Patterson ,Chitalada draw
     
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  6. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I think I agree with all of these with hearns graziano & chavez williams being the hardest to choose from.

    Louis & SRR win by ko in these fights, no question.
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    Chavez - Williams is the hardest pick for me.
     
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  8. Holmes' Jab

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    Same here, actually.

    I had Chavez by late stoppage but I wouldn't be enitely confident in laying down any moola on that one. Williams' dymamite power would keep him in with a shout.
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

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    For sure, and Williams also has some serious inside ability as well as subtle boxing skill. Fantastic match.
     
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  10. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Is this Feb 47 vs November 87?
     
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  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    April. I goofed. Very well spotted.

    Now make your picks and move along.
     
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  12. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    April 47 vs November 87? Tell me why first.* :p






    * I've a feeling it's to favour old timers by the way. :hey
     
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  13. 196osh

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    Joe Louis v Micheal Spinks
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    Rocky Graziano v Thomas Hearns
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    Sugar Ray Robinson v Jorge Vaca
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    Ike Williams v Julio Cesar Chavez
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    Willy Pep v Antonio Esparragoza
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  14. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Nice addition to the first post. :D



    Although it appears more April 47-November 87. The reason I orignally noticed as that Williams* was not champ in Feb 47- and Vaca wasn't champ till October 87.
     
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  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I just failed to look at the date for the second list I popped into.

    Think the old timers dominate this one do you? What's the difference between this and the Feb v Feb ratings?
     
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