[1949 article] Jeffries and Sharkey slam Walcott and Charles

They sparred in1901 you idiot!lol
Cox says Johnson was green do you agree. or do you just cherry pick the quotes of his that you agree with and that suit your agenda?lol
I've read it ,it's poor ,hack journalism,I don't rate Cox highly at all,he gets too many facts wrong,he's a sloppy researcher ,saying Johnson was 6 foot 2 inches tall! ! Sharkey would be outboxed and beaten up by the bigger, stronger Johnson, no short swarmer beats Jack and none did well against him!

 

I get the impression Sharkey was the type who could be hurt, but had really good recuperative powers. I suspect the Jeffries fight, and then Ruhlin fight had also softened him a bit for Fitz.

 

When he was 12? Or did he only see the diminished version of Jeffries i 1910?

Excuse me while I reshuffle my AT heavyweight rankings.

 

Louis was easy to hit? And Sharkey wasn't?lol
Sharkey fought Goddard twice Goddard was 39 and 42 years old!

 

Fitz ko'd Sharkey with a legitimate body punch only to be dsq'd by a corrupt referee,this was before Sharkey fought either Jeffries or Ruhlin.

 

True, but I think he was pre-prime for that one. Even between the two Jeffries fights he was said to have improved a lot.

 

But his ability to take punches to the stomach would be the same?
Sharkey was built like a tank, and had about the same amount of grace.

 

Actually, having a look through the reports, it seems unclear to what extent it was the headshots, and what extent it was the bodyshot that KOed him. Sharkey had been in a bad way since the end of the 5th, and Fitz landed a few headshots along with the bodyshot. The descriptions of the KO are pretty contradictory.

Morning Union, 4 December 1896
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=MU18961...-en--20--1--txt-txIN-sharkey+fitz----1896---1
W. W. Naughton thinks Sharkey was ready to drop when Fitz landed the bodyshot.

San Francisco Call, Volume 81, Number 3, 3 December 1896
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=SFC1896...-en--20--1--txt-txIN-sharkey+fitz----1896---1
Young Mitchell says the bodyshot crumpled him, then a left hook finished him. (on page 3)

A comment by Fitz himself, did say he KOed him with a bodyshot however. Sharkey also said thatFitz hit him with right uppercut, and then "landed foul", and then he had no memory, until he was in a bed that afternoon, which sounds more like he was concussed (THE DAILY STAXDARD UNION, Dec 4th 1896)

It's hard to tell, I don't think you can know for sure either way. But I do think the description of how out he was, sounds odd if it really was a KO to the body.

Interestingly, one of the newspapers mentioned there being several preliminary bouts, but not who fought.

 

He was definitely loyal to his era.

 

It's funny how old fighters saying later greats couldn't compete with them, is just seen as them being old cranks. But if newer fighters say past greats couldn't compete with them, then that's an expert opinion that needs taken seriously.

I honestly think what fighters says about other boxers before and after them in such sweeping generalisations, says a lot more about them, than the fighters they talk about.

 

I'm going by Pollack's Fitzsimmons book. The fight was a fix ,fixed for Sharkey, an absolute disgrace!

 

I don't disagree on that. I'm just saying, while Fitz landed a body shot, it seems unclear that was the shot that actually KOed Sharkey.

 

Quite a few people said Louis was too easy to hit. Johnson and Walcott also come to mind, and they are correct.