1949 heavyweights v. 1999 heavyweights

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I'd be shocked if Perry and Janitor agree with you on this one.
     
  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    That wasn't the Louis that Walcott fought though was it?
     
  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    If Tua got the opportunity to fight the line of corpses and lightheavies Marciano did, some of those heads would still be in orbit.
     
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  5. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People forget about the olympics that none of those guys were professionals. So much had changed that it would impossible to make an accurate comparison between the two. I will say that even without an adjustment for shoes,cinder, holes,and PEDs assuming those cancel it the watch, there's not a single year that jesse Owens wouldn't have been an all american this millennium.

    And Chris Byrd would give louis fits, to say the least. A super elusive southpaw? Get outta here.
     
  6. aussie opinion

    aussie opinion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gloves!!!... When people match these atg match ups they tend to forget a o
    About the gloves.. Padding in the early years was light and separated... Unlike the gloves of today. Many factors have tO into play, older fighters had Better chins, hit harder.. But work rate was down...15rds prob even in stamina
     
  7. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    If the weight of Rockys opponents makes them such all easy fight,
    then how did small Conn last longer in the ring with Louis than SHWs Carnera and Baer?

    How did Byrd, one of the smallest men either Klitschko has faced, TKO Vitali, when he could manhandle 250 pounders?

    Also, do you acknowledge what a special puncher Rocky was?

    Your arguments don't add up.
     
  8. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    He didn't specify which Tua it was either.

    And the Louis against Walcott was a better puncher than Tua.
     
  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Gloves are a key factor. With smaller gloves it is easier to pinpoint smaller targets between gloves and below elbows. The accuracy to force ratio is closer. A different type of heavyweight was required for smaller gloves.
     
  10. WhyYouLittle

    WhyYouLittle Stand Still Full Member

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    Well reminded point often swept under the carpet.
     
  11. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not convinced he was better than Tyson Gay.




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  12. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He might not have been a better sprinter. Gay is very talented. But Owens stopped running when he was young; if we stopped gay at a similar point his career best would be a 10.06. He was able to drop that nearly 4 tenths of a second in the next few years. If Owens did that he would have beat everyone but Bolt in the 2008 olympics.

    And the long jump was good best event which is why I would place him above a guy like gay.
     
  13. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    To be honest this is more or less how I see it.

    I see people like Greb, Dempsey and even Walcott, as being aberrations produced by the circumstances of their eras.
     
  14. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

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    Well put sr
     
  15. Reason123

    Reason123 Not here for the science fiction. Full Member

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    Tua isn't knocking anyone's head into orbit.