1950s Heavy weights underrated?

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  1. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Once again with your nonsense you ignore the facts of the matter. How many men above 200 plus pounds beat Marciano hell even bullied him? How many men got knocked out by him? While I have evidence to support my case you have jack and **** to support yours. So until you get over your childish name calling and can comment without making a joke of yourself go F off.
     
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    No this is a BS phoney tactic. You can disagree, you can say I am incorrect then explain why you think I am incorect.... but you can’t say I am dishonest. That is not how debates work.

    I object to it. I am not dishonest if I comeback with knowledge to explain myself and nobody disagrees.

    You don’t get to call somebody dishonest because you cannot work out a way to be right!

    I have came back and refuted it each time and nobody has ever disagreed with my explanation. Which is why this is just a made up, phoney tactic. And totally bogus.
     
  3. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    Its 11 god damn fellows! Three of them were blown up middleweights. Joe Louis functional weight was 197-207, which makes him very close over CW! Here, LOOK AT THIS, thats the "HW resume" of the fellows Rocky stopped.

    254lb Jackson 4-2 (don´t use the avarage weight here because of this fattie, use the median for proper descriptive statistics) (started at 160)
    206lb Hardemann 1-4
    213lb Connolly 8-5
    201 Donato 7-10
    206 Eatman 22-20-5
    220 Shkor 30-18-2
    229 Wilson 41-11-2
    200 Simmons 8-8-1
    213 Louis 66-2
    200 Savold 104-45-4 (started at 158)
    205 ****ell 66-11-1 (started at 160)

    Get. Out. Of. Rockys. Pants.

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    YOU get over it and **** off. RBV Troll.
     
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  4. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    @choklab You even know what you´re typing here. Dicuss the topic with the data and facts given, stop twisting and flexing the debate into your frame, everybody can read it. It happend so often.
     
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  5. choklab

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    Not when he was fighting. There was no cruiserweight division then. Yes or no? Coincidentally the heavyweight division then as it was did not have recorded drug cheats either.
     
  6. Gazelle Punch

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    Where’s the evidence? Oh you have NONE. Go back to your moms basement.
     
  7. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    Are these 11 fellows a comparable HW-Resume to Ali, Holyfield, Lewis, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Wlad, Frazier and all other HWs after the 50s,
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    Every 6th grader is able to answer this, which is the reason threads like this exist in the first place. Like to bring that topic to the General?
     
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    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    No it is just something you decided. I am not twisting anything. All that ever happens is I make a point that people disagree with. I respond to their disagreement, they get butt hurt and I get falsely accused of being dishonest because they cannot disagree with me. When you reach a dead end you go back and sift through the facts to find an incorrect calf measurement or something... it is pitiful. And it all resorts to being a bogus, made up tactic that won’t stand up.

    Once again another explanation that nobody disagrees with.
     
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  9. Gazelle Punch

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    Is it weight that makes someone a quality heavy weight? Yes or no? Clown.
     
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  10. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    Are these 11 fellows a comparable HW-Resume to Ali, Holyfield, Lewis, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Wlad, Frazier and all other HWs after the 50s,
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  11. choklab

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    Are these 11 fellows a comparable HW-Resume to Ali, Holyfield, Lewis, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Wlad, Frazier and all other HWs after the 50s? No. Quite frankly no they are not. So what? News Flash! They don’t have to be!

    Does this make me dishonest or make anyone dishonest if they point out that he knocked out men this size?

    So presumably because you are now out of the sixth grade yourself, you will be able to admit the whole dishonesty angle is a totally made up bogus tactic and apologise like a man?
     
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  12. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    Oh lord :facepalm: Is it weight that describes a heavy weight? :lol:
    There is a word in this sentence termed heavy to determine a Heavy Weight.

    It was that 6th grader who teached you about (Normal) Distributions, Standard Deviation and Probability when we were discussing human heights for the 10th time, chok!
     
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  13. Gazelle Punch

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    The 11 over 200 no. But we aren’t children and you take a career as a whole. Your argument is Rocky can’t fight anyone over 200 they're to heavy. The facts say otherwise. there is evidence to say he can handle bigger men yet there is zero stating he can’t. It is presumption on your part...presumption against the facts I may add.
     
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    You might think you “teached” me something but whether you thought you taught me something or not, I countered that with splendid contrasting information supporting my view ....and you did not like it. That is all there was to it. You couldn’t disagree and so you borrowed the phoney tactic from some baboons ass about “intellectual dishonesty” (a made up term) because you couldn’t think of anything else to say. But now is the time for closure. As gratifying as it is for me to demonstrate this conclusion once again. Let’s finally Put an end to these ridiculous unfounded dishonesty claims.
     
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  15. Gazelle Punch

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    Sigh...this post is about the great fighters of the 50s lol. It’s spun into a Marciano fight. Just one of many great fighters in the 50s. Honestly how many decades have that strong of a top 11?