1950s Heavy weights underrated?

All I know is you said Satterfield was "ripe for the taking," when he fought Williams and it's an outright LIE! And what's more you knew it when you posted it! Satterfield's top ten annual rankings were after he lost to Layne not before.

You've been badly caught out here.Don't compound it further!
I ****ing hate deliberate dishonesty!

 

None were great heavyweights end of!

 

He was considered a very dangerous oppenent and was certainly "elite" with wins over Valdez, Johnson, Marshall, etc
Definitely not a fringe opponent as you like to put it. Even if you do consider him a fringe oppenent (in which you're the strict minority) you said Williams was knocked out by fringe oppenents in the 50s. Only other person who knocked him out was a prime Liston. Do you consider Liston a fringe oppenent? If not admit you're wrong, or being dishonest as usual.

 

I asked you how a prime Williams would beat Daniels and you respondwith "how indeed?" quite clearly implying that he couldn't. You're now changing the subject about which of Williams oppenents were good enough to beat Daniels which I'm not going to answer because it's irrelevant dishonest meaningless bull**** just as I'd expect with you. Who did Foreman beat prior to facing Frazier that would give you any indication that he would do what he did to him?

 

Satterfield was 177 to Williams 202. That is not 29 pounds. Jesus Christ chok. Just **** off. Nobody (not even you) is this ****ing stupid.

 

on paper, the unbeaten knockout artist was needing a step up opponent from the fringes of world class who had a history of being knocked out. Charles had in-fact flattened Satterfeild in a recent TV fight. If you were a manager looking to launch a guy like Williams, who was so much bigger, into the next level, Satterfeild would be perfect. You would absolutely take that fight. I know I would.

yeah, I knew that. Which is why I said “Bob caused a few upsets later on”. It doesn't change how Bob was regarded after losing to Layne and Charles. As you know the stock can go up and down.

 

dangerous opponents come and go. Bob was most famous at that time for being knocked flat by both Layne and Charles. You can forgive people for thinking he had hit the skids at world level about then, which was when he met Williams. Later of course Bob caused surprise results. But nobody would know this at the time.

well he certainly lost to a non entity in Sylvester Jones. And Bob Satterfeild was a name opponent not at that time riding so high in the ranks. What is fringe if it cannot include those riding high in the ranks?

no I actually said Liston was regarded a future champion by the time of their second fight. Which was in the 1960s. Which is the exact opposite of a fringe fighter. First time, in 1959, Sonny was on the way up and only starting to make an impression on the ranks. Williams was 45-2, Sonny was 23-1.

Of course, with hindsight, Williams was always Going to be out of his depth against Guys like Liston. As Satterfeild had previously shown.

 

I know, Just shows the talent that was around in the 1950s.

 

Why then did you say Satterfield was," ripe for the taking ,"and not considered elite".when he was a top ten ranked heavyweight even 2 years after the Williams fight? You say you knew it, so it was intentional dishonesty.Satterfield was regarded as a top ten heavyweight at the end of 5.3 55.&56. Those are the facts, and no personal impression of yours, custom tailored to fit nicely with your agenda changes that!

 

Because that was not how Bob was regarded after being flattened by Ezzard Charles and then beaten by Charlie Doc Williams twenty days earlier. Which was when he met Williams. Back then Bob has been knocked out 3 tines in the last 2 years.

 

Who thought he had hit the skids? Not the Ring magazine who ranked him in their top ten in53,55,and 56!

Who knew it ? You did! You knew it , when you posted he was ripe for the taking and no longer considered elite!
Total bull ****!

 

Great is the most overused word when referring to fighters.
Being ranked in the 1950s wasn't exactly the most difficult achievement.
Cokkell
Bethea
Gardner
Williams
London
Sys
Neuhaus
Miteff
Harris
Dunlap
Oma
London
Hunter
Wallace
Brion
Johnson
Carter
Norkus
Were just some that managed it.