1951 Joe Louis vs 1993 George Foreman

Still sifting through and rearranging facts i see. I knew it would be a waste of time to reply.

Youre not here to debate, you want everyone on board with your narrative and you prove it in literally every post and every valid point someone makes. The only reason i dont ignore you is because despite how frustratingly impossible it is to have an intelligent, honest conversation, your rants, logic fallacies, and mental gymnastics are hilarious.

Good job closing the poll too, nice touch lol.

 

Shes widowed? Then was i right? Did it have anything to do with my theory?

 

You need a slap!

 

You are an excellent poster mate, but you crossed the line with that response to
Choklab. A simple," sorry I went over the top ,"would resolve things.C'mon, you are better than this.

 

Don't hold your breath choc The blokes obviously a immature sack of shyte!

 

I am man enough to admit i took things too far.

You werent man enough to admit you intentionally misrepresented facts, spun narratives, or just flat out lied in over two dozen other threads and posts. So sure, ill take it back what i said, but idk where u get off acting like the morality police when tons of other posters have called u out on your biased nonsense and u keep up the same routine.

 

The facts are you arent fair in your assessment for both fighters.

The facts are you admitted and announced your intention to change peoples perception of certain fighters (like liston). So forgive me if im suspicious that you have an agenda when you said so out of your own mouth. It doesnt help that you take a cheap shot at foreman every chancr you get by calling him "bald", a "circus act", "obese", "lucky" etc.

The facts are louis never fought anything like the way morrison fought foreman so its irrelevant when discussing how louis would do. Half a dozen people have told you this and you ignore it.

The facts are morrison getting koed by bennt after beating foreman doesnt mean foreman wasnt aby good. Thats stupid circular logic. Frazier beat ali then got crushed by foreman so does that mean ali wasnt any good? Thats not how how boxing works and i could give dozens of examples provin how flawed your logic is. This has ALSO been explained to you numerous times before.

Foreman getting wobbled once or twice is a silly criticism when he was never dropped, let alone stopped, as a 40 year old man against guys half his age. You keep bringing it up like it matters.

You discredit and question the punching power of the guys who landed flush on foreman to tip toe around and attempt to downplay his chin. Briggs was a prime young heavyweight who set the record for 1st round kos and couldnt put a dent in foreman and chose to circle around him and avoid a war. Morrisons power is without question, ray charles could see that he hit hard. Cooney was past his best but power is the last thing to go and ill take larry holmes norton, and foremans word that he had frightening power over you. Alex stewart also had good power. Prime holyfield and moore had very high ko %'s and could crack yet couldnt do more than wobble foreman. His chin is iron, get the hell over it already.

The FACTS are Moore was an undefeated 2 weight class champ who was never stopped. Moore had several good wins over rated contenders and the ONLY reason people downplay foremans win are benefit of hindsight and/or angry they lost a bet. Moore was only stopped 3x against big punchers/hall of famers in over 60+ pro fights so idk where this idea comes that he was the biggest glass jawed fraud and the "worst champion" as you put it...which again shows your BIAS.

The FACTS are you ignore any good win/close wins foreman has and claim the other guy got robbed and never give foreman the benefit of the doubt. The FACTS are in this very thread you ignored official rulings when it suited your argument but threw a fit when i did the same to tear apart louis' resume. Its very hypocritical of you.

So if you combine all these glaring instances than yeah, you look biased as hell, especially when you go into almost every thread of fighters you dont like every week and repeat the same stuff over and over. Im sick of going in circles and you dont concede anything.

 

What about your claim Foreman beat no-one in the Ring top 10? One could hardly not know Moorer was, that would be impossible.

 

No surprise LOL. It's 9-5 to Foreman so he's got close enough to 2/3's of the vote.

The fat lady has been singing for a while.