1952 jersey Joe Walcott vs 1919 Jess willard

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Walcott of the First Marciano fight vs Willard of the Dempsey fight

    Who wins and how
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Willand stops him around the 30th round
     
  3. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol::lol: c0ck
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Now I wonder why these threads have suddenly appeared?:lol::rofl:yep:hey

    I'll play along .

    Walcott was kod by a giant in Abe Simon .Willard hit appreciably harder than Simon, had better boxing ability ,a telescopic left jab and a crushing right uppercut.

    So just to get you started:

    After initially doing well and out boxing Jess, Walcott finds himself unable to hurt the giant.
    Willard puts his foot on the pedal in the middle rounds and scores repeatedly with his pole of a jab.
    Walcott begins to lose heart with his lack of success.
    Into the 14th Jess staggers Old Mr Cream with a solid jab Creamy falls back into the ropes Jess goes for the kill.
    Jersey Joe ducks a jab and as he does so, Willard launches a booming uppercut that catches Geriatric Joe just like Midget Marciano did ,and Geriatric falls senseless to the canvas . Walcott gets up an hour later and protests he was given a short count , storming around the ring, stamping his feet in protest, pantomiming outrage and his handlers throw there arms up in mock dismay. And the crowd boo like thunder.
    That should give you some meat to chew on Suzie Q.:good
     
  5. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Walcott beats the 1919 Willard by a wide margin,

    most likely a decision, but I can see Willard being stopped late.
     
  6. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Come on man .. you know Walcott went into that fight not eating or even drinking water for three weeks .. :rofl ... besides, he did not mature as a fighter till 39.. :D
     
  7. janitor

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    I would lean towards Walcott here, but a prime and focused Willard would be a dangerous opponent for him, and might turn the trick.
     
  8. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Interestingly, although Walcott was a bit older, he appears on film in 1952 to be much the better conditioned and "focused" fighter

    than the somewhat flabby Willard of 1919.
     
  9. Phil_Ivey_76

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  10. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Any version of Walcott beats Willard on a 15 round decision.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Yeah , his prime was when he refereed the Ali v Liston fight:good
     
  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I'd have to pick an active fighting champion over one that's been idle about 95% of the time. Walcott has my vote.
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    Obviously Walcott doesn't have the quality of a prime Willard.

    He will get out jabbed and then knocked out by that lazer right arm.
     
  14. JWSoats

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    The Walcott of the first Marciano fight was in top condition, focused, and intent on winning. And he was winning that fight until he got caught in the 13th by a prime Marciano. It has been said that Walcott never looked better than he did in that fight. The 1919 Willard was poorly conditioned and lethargic due to inactivity and grossly underestimating Dempsey. I could easily see Walcott outboxing Jess over a 15-round distance. I do not see Walcott duplicating Dempsey's demolition job, nor do I see him taking Willard out as he did Ezzard Charles. It could, in fact, turn out to be a pretty boring fight. Still, Willard's size and strength would still make him a dangerous foe and if the fight were scheduled for 20 or more rounds his chances may improve as he was accustomed to fighting over longer distances than Joe. Nevertheless, I pick the '52 Jersey Joe by decision.
     
  15. BCS8

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    Willard never particularly impressed me I'm afraid. I think I'll take Walcott, by decision since Jess did at least have a good beard.